Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Specializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Yet Another Forum Game - Numismatic Go Fish!

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 20,135 / Views: 946,396Next Topic
Page: of 1343
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
192314 Posts
 Posted 12/03/2018  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
the key date is unobtainably rare (e.g. 1913 V nickel)
That one does not count. Post the 1885 if you have it.


Quote:
- there is a dubious date, which would be the key date if accepted (e.g. 1959-D Wheat cent)
Again, error and varieties do not have to be counted unless it is on your list. Sounds like it is not.


Quote:
I think I did find one exception where it does make sense to declare a "key date", and I do happen to have it (as well as, as it happens, all the other dates in that series).
I'll try to do the write-up later if I manage to get my pictures all the way from my camera to my laptop to the Image Optimizer to the CCF upload (problems have been known to happen on each of those four stages before).
Excellent, good luck!
Bedrock of the Community
Dorado's Avatar
Canada
24885 Posts
 Posted 12/03/2018  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1858 Canada.
One cent.

Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish!

Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish!
Pillar of the Community
Finn235's Avatar
United States
6130 Posts
 Posted 12/03/2018  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found a 1950-D nickel in one of the first few boxes I ever searched, but apparently never took a picture!

Here is a key date British Honduras 50 cents 1901, mintage 10,000
Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish!
It is the only one I own of that set though. Next lowest mintage is 20,000 but none have a higher mintage than 36,000
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
192314 Posts
 Posted 12/03/2018  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will make a choice tomorrow morning. Hopefully j1m will find success before then.
Bedrock of the Community
spru's Avatar
United States
12477 Posts
 Posted 12/03/2018  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I wish my '50-D was in as great shape as yours @spruett!


I wish I owned any '16-D Merc! But, I don't collect Mercury dimes.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
5186 Posts
 Posted 12/04/2018  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I will make a choice tomorrow morning. Hopefully j1m will find success before then.
I'll try my best to; but it's probably going to be a matter of minutes either way (and more likely than not, it won't be in my direction).
Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
5186 Posts
 Posted 12/04/2018  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In retrospect, I should have mentioned a fifth stage - CCF upload to actual posting. I was unexpectedly delayed by twenty or so minutes due to being asked to urgently buy some groceries.

Of course, it's not much of a write-up anyway, and the photos suck - the coin was apparently really unphotogenic...



As I have already mentioned, I don't actually collect most series by date actively enough to look for the keys.

In the few cases where I do, as often as not, I end up saying "nope, those are too rare to bother with" and just not counting the ultra-rare dates in the first place.

But I see no immediate reason why the key date for, say, this type should be 1999 (the mildly scarce date, which I have - think 2009 nickel for relative scarcity) and not 2001 (attested in several known examples, with an estimated mintage of at most a few thousand).

I mean, I don't have the 2001 coin, naturally, but if I did end up stumbling on one, I probably would have included it in my set.
(Or sold to get rich, more likely, but that's beside the point.)


Anyway, with Russian series, which I do actively collect (some of them), I usually already have all the normal dates and have nearly no chance of ever getting any of the ultra-rare dates; in any case, the mintages are unknown, so it's not like I could meaningfully say which date is the key (ignoring the ultra-rares, anyway).

I do collect some non-Russian series by date; again, the mintages are often unknown, and the purchases are usually sporadic, and in any case if the key is significantly more expensive, I usually don't bother looking for it unless I already accidentally have it.

Of course, more often than not, if I think I accidentally have the key, that just means it's not the actual key, and the official mintages are misleading.
Notably, this is the case for Victorian bun pennies, where the 1860 (which I have) has the lowest recorded mintage, but the 1864 (which I also have) is actually much scarcer, and the actual rarest date appears to be 1869 (which I don't have).


Anyway, all of this means that one of the very few ways for me to actually have the key (aside from accidents, which I actually mostly don't recall) for a series that I could be said to collect by date is to get (nearly) the entire series in one shot - usually from a bargain bin.

Of course, your typical bargain bin isn't all that likely to have scarce dates, so more often than not, I'm still missing a few, and the key is usually among those few.

Which brings me to what might well be the only obvious exception in my collection - that I could recall, anyway...



Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish! Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish!

Luxembourg, 25 centimes, 1968.

With a mintage of 600,000, easily the key date of the 1954-72 aluminium 25 centimes type; this is confirmed by the Numista exchange lists (a lot shorter for this date than for any other date of the type).

And yes, I ended up getting all eight dates of this type in one shot from a single bargain bin, at the 2018 COINS show in Moscow, on November 2, 2018.

(I had seven different dates when I decided to check on Numista whether any other dates exist; it pointed me to the missing 1968.
I had to check most of the bin for that, but did find an 1968, which is the coin I'm trying to show you today.)
Pillar of the Community
bd251's Avatar
United States
1864 Posts
 Posted 12/04/2018  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bd251 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure if this will qualify, but here it goes.

1918 Finland 5 Penniä
Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish!

Being a single year type, it's obviously the key of the series, but allow me to give it a little more significance by including it in a larger series. Having the same reverse design, I would say this coin (KM 21, mintage 35k) could be be included in the series of the first post-independence 5 penniä coins of Finland along with KM 22 which are all very common with mintage in the millions. Think of it like you would the 2009 Lincoln cents. They are single year types, but still Lincoln cents.

I don't have a picture of any of my other coins in the series, so here is a link for reference. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7456.html
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
192314 Posts
 Posted 12/04/2018  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent contributions everyone.

We have six participants and I will leave the winner to chance...

Yet-Another-Forum-Game---Numismatic-Go-Fish!

Contestant Number 5 is the winner!

january1may, that is you! I think the universe was rewarding your effort.
Bedrock of the Community
Dorado's Avatar
Canada
24885 Posts
 Posted 12/04/2018  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
january1may, that is you! I think the universe was rewarding your effort.


Congratulations!
Bedrock of the Community
spru's Avatar
United States
12477 Posts
 Posted 12/05/2018  02:24 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Contestant Number 5 is the winner!


If you had used the App, it would have rolled a Snake Eye.


In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru
12/05/2018 02:31 am
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
192314 Posts
 Posted 12/05/2018  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If you had used the App, it would have rolled a Snake Eye.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
192314 Posts
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
192314 Posts
Bedrock of the Community
Dorado's Avatar
Canada
24885 Posts
 Posted 12/07/2018  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
....

Will we go for the second finalist?
  Previous TopicReplies: 20,135 / Views: 946,396Next Topic
Page: of 1343

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 1.05 seconds to rattle this change. Forums