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I'm guessing that the 1953 Jefferson nickels didn't have a good run. I noticed on PCGS that coins that I would think was a MS 60-63 were grading at MS 65+ & the few (under 20) that graded FS were given a lot of leadway.
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Below are (3) that PCGS graded 1953 Jefferson FS? After the examples I added some pics of my 1953 Jefferson. Based on this grading scale should I go ahead and submit my coin to PCGS?    MY 1953 -- Sorry for the bad pics...      It has some hits but looks pretty good compared to the PCGS FS high grade coins? Any advise is greatly appreciated. Edited by nicrob42
08/28/2017 12:41 am
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Ah, show the PCGS slabs for those examples, NO WAY are any of those FS coins. Yours is close, but not sure it should grade a FS because of damage. If it doesn't continue all the way across period, it ain't one I my book. Let NickeyGuy say on this one. On final pic, closeup shows none of 4 steps are complete, 5th hardly starts. Looks nice MS62 maybe, so nice but not nice enough to waste money on TPG.  Edited by Crazyb0
08/27/2017 10:06 pm
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I would say probably MS-63. I don't think it would grade FS. Being generous, I think it has 4 "full" steps. However, I've never sent one in for grading so, I have no idea what a TPG would say about your steps.  It would be a risk to send it in but, if it did come back FS, it would be money well spent. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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No ... don't send that in. You see it has a major hit through the bottom portion of the steps between the two center pillars. I see some graded slabs with FS and I wonder if they are getting lenient or they just don't know what a Full Step nickel is. There was a time in the early years where they graded the step count by dividing the steps into quarters. It was complicated. Now a step can be counted only if that incuse line ( which ideally there would be 6 of ) is uninterrupted by nicks, cuts or missing detail. A stickler would start at the top step and count down. I would say you could designate your 1953 nickel as maybe "MS63 with some steps". And yes, it is an unusually nice 1953 with good detail for this year and mint. A good nickel to have. I can't really grade pictures but it looks about right. If you want to count them, the 1st (top ) and maybe the second are complete, the rest are partial and interrupted. The only one in your post that looks promising to me as a 5 step nickel is the third one down. Here's your pic and I enlarged the steps.   Just because a slab says it is 5 steps, doesn't mean it truly is. Buying a AU58 coin in a MS65 slab does not make a AU58 coin a MS65 coin. Edited by TNG
08/27/2017 10:47 pm
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I totally agreed on the steps & grading, however, I was looking on PCGS Official site & they have 4 coins as examples. I gave example pics on 3 of them. I wasn't sure on the FS on 2 but the other 2 was where I got confused & wanted to ask more experienced collectors. I was getting the impression that grading was more lenient on scare FS coins but needed others advise. I'm well aware that people change out slabs but my pictures came straight from PCGS Official site. http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm...aspx?s=84049Crazyb0....  Better than seeing slabs that people can change coins out I have attached the direct link to PCGS Official Verification page for ALL 3 of my examples below (verification pages have the picture for all 3 examples): 1953MS65FS: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/819699411953MS65FS: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/251563171953MS63FS: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/83669027 |
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I'm quite certain that PCGS and NGC use different qualifications for FS. NGC's being the more exacting.
Perhaps taking a look at their definitions might help.
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It just doesn't seem that the same guidelines are used across the board?
I know you have to start somewhere & standards have to be set to some degree but my research is telling me that these basic standards can change dramatically based on the each individual coin.....
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Some years are cut a little slack. The '53, particularly the '53S, considered the 'grand daddy' of them all, by most FS collectors. This offering, slabbed by NGC, would never be considered by me to be FS. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-S-JEFF...AOSwFqJWlw4f |
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For sure. Anyway, PM -  to the CCF! |
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