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How Much Would It Cost To Do Eliasberg Today?

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There is someone trying. How many stoppers are there in a complete set of US coins by date and mintmark?
1894-S Barber dime
1870-S Seated half dime
1913 Nickel (are any of them in private hands?)
1933 Saint

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It would take weeks to accumulate probable prices in unspecified grades. When you had the answer their would only be a few geek-monsters that might care.

If someone can afford to challenge a complete set of all US coins, they can hire me for a couple months to answer any question they have
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I think it would take far more in time than it would money. I can't imagine how long it would take to locate a 1913 nickel for sale let alone proof and uncirculated examples of the $4 Stellas or the 1974D Aluminum cent. It just may not be possible to assemble a set of every coin produced buy the US Mints.
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If you dangle enough money out there it wouldn't be so hard. Bill Gross has the best and most complete collection of US stamps. He also collects coins.

Jeff Zuckerberg or Larry Brin could probably do it pretty easily if they wanted to. They would offer a dealer a seven figure fee to get the unique and near unique coins and they would all be tripping over themselves to get these coins for their client.

Seven figures is chump change for these folks, but Jeff Z is probably thinking about other things to do like run for President.
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Jeff Z as President? I'm not so sure an internet guy would be a step up from a reality tv guy.
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Also a lot of the cost depends on whether people know what you are trying to accomplish. Probably best to acquire the unique/near unique coins first using multiple anonymous agents before people catch on to what you are up to and jack up prices to the stratosphere based on your need to complete the set.

The cost is not fixed. There is a behavioral component based on available information.
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If you dangle enough money out there it wouldn't be so hard.


How many people on the planet have half a billion dollars minimum to throw away overpaying for things that people don't want to sell? Look at what the Pogue coins wen't for as a collection and they really over-saturated the market by the time that was done. There's some coins you would just have to flat out pay insane money to get one from an owner if you have to have one of everything made
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isn't Mr. Zuckerberg's first name Mark? Bezo's first name is Jeff.
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Yep. Got that mixed up. Haha. Thanks Jerry.

It is estimated that there are over 2,000 people with a net worth over $1 billion US dollars.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The...Billionaires
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Of course, a billion dollars doesn't buy what it use to.
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I can't imagine how long it would take to locate a 1913 nickel for sale let alone proof and uncirculated examples of the $4 Stellas

They all show up for sale on a fairly regular basis. There are other coins that are usually much harder to come by such as the 1873 CC no arrows dime or the 1853 O no arrows and rays half dollar (Although there is an example of the half on the market at this time) 1822 half eagle etc. And of course it is impossible to actually duplicate the Eliasberg goal as the 1870 S 3 dollar is permanently tied up in the Bass collection.
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Buying people is more important to the uber-rich than things.

And I don't "necessarily" mean this in a nefarious way, think corporate takeovers, sorry, un-PC, corporate bailouts, ah...sorry again, corporate resurrections. Ah, much better, aren't ya proud of me?

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I wondered perhaps you meant Jeff Bezos and/or Mark Zuckerberg?
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^ Thats true, there can only be one complete set of US coins at a time as the 1870-S 3 dollar is unique and in a long term collection. So, as I suspected, it might not even be possible even if you were willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Yeah, if it were possible it'd take a 9-figure budget. Some individual examples will be in the 8-figure range....
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^ Thats true, there can only be one complete set of US coins at a time as the 1870-S 3 dollar is unique and in a long term collection. So, as I suspected, it might not even be possible even if you were willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars.


There is a price you could pry that free, it's just whether or not someone has the means or the will to pay some insane price for it
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