ID Help - German States 6 Kreuzer 1756, Friderich II

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Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 09/08/2017 4:22 pm Cleaning out the junk and lot bycatch. I was able to narrow it down to a 6 kreuzer of Friderich II, but can't find an exact match online. 22mm, 1.76g Closest match seems to be Breslau: https://www.ma-shops.com/olding2/it...1339&lang=en Also thinking about putting this one in my next sale... what would be a fair price in this condition? Report this Post to the Staff

Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 09/08/2017 6:08 pm Is this a match, Steve?: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ga...p?pos=-79459 Report this Post to the Staff
Joseph7420 Bedrock of the Community Canada 11922 Posts	Posted 09/08/2017 6:20 pm I am thinking it is 6 groscher rather that 6 kreuzer (from Prussia). The type I am thinking of was made during two years, and the one from 1757 has a slightly different looking reverse, so I will give you two links: https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...duid-1392630 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...er-508296599 Report this Post to the Staff
owatchman Pillar of the Community United States 1494 Posts	Posted 09/08/2017 10:04 pm Another link that you may want to check it is Numista. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces44756.html Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 09/08/2017 10:45 pm The two shields on the reverse identify this as a 6 Gröscher, instead of 1/6 Thaler, although that's usually immediately apparent by the size and weight as well! In 1756 Brandenburg was using the Reichsthaler (of 24 groschen / 288 pfennige.) 1756, Brandenburg-Prussia. Olding 359a, Cleves mint. That being said, it is badly underweight and also at least 1-2mm undersize. In addition, the C cartouche (for Cleves) at the center lower reverse is missing its bottom half, probably due to a slightly off center strike to the south. I'd be suspicious of a contemporary counterfeit, or a real coin with loss of metal (maybe saltwater immersion and dissolution with those surfaces.) Overall the surfaces do not look "right." Very grainy and porous. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 09/11/2017 09:30 am Thanks all for the help! I was trying to find a match for the half "C" mintmark, which is probably why I was struggling. I noticed the weight as well--I suppose a contemporary counterfeit would certainly explain a lot. Report this Post to the Staff
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