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1796 Draped Bust Coin

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 Posted 09/11/2017  4:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rayray1221 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone I am in nedd of identifying this 1796 draped bust coin cant tell if I have a real this or is it a fake as you see so much of them on the web...please help.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a fake.
Genuine Draped Bust don't show stars
around the rim.
Also in the future, PLEASE
post photos right side up.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackPenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 09/11/2017  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a bad fake
The reverse design was not adopted until 1798
The coin was obviously struck with a collar, hence the raised rim. This wasn't implemented until the 1830's
Also the design elements on both obverse and reverse are off in the details
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 Posted 09/11/2017  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry - fake. And painful to look at.
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 Posted 09/11/2017  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the good news is that it's such a terrible fake most Numismatists would catch this from across the room. Keep with us and we will share all the secrets
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 Posted 09/11/2017  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your counterfeit 1796 originated in China and is known as the "lightweight" counterfeit:

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 Posted 09/12/2017  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Genuine Draped Bust don't show stars
around the rim.

The cents and Half Cents don't, but all the other denominations do.
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 Posted 09/13/2017  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are so many variations in these counterfeit early dollars- lots of different entities making them. I have a COPY stamped 1796. The extra large date on the OP's coin is what jumped out at me first. I think my counterfeit is a closer match to an original, even though it is still a dead giveaway to experienced collectors.

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 Posted 09/13/2017  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry!



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 Posted 09/15/2017  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darth, I don't suppose the off-centered variety of the 1796 when they were only made in 1795 is enough of a giveaway?
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 Posted 09/15/2017  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Darth, I don't suppose the off-centered variety of the 1796 when they were only made in 1795 is enough of a giveaway?


Well, it wasn't to me because I was unaware of that fact. LOL. I don't study the early dollars in detail because I can't afford them. The counterfeit I posted is as close to owning one as I'll ever get. I'm OK with that, though. I just know enough to spot a counterfeit most of the time.
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 Posted 09/15/2017  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.earlydollars.org/wizardhome.htm

Bookmark that place, and you won't have to study Early Dollars so diligently.

The "usual" rules common to all counterfeits about surface quality and the like are still needed, but that's general stuff we should all be learning anyway.
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Thanks for the link, SD.
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