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Pillar of the Community
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I think too good to be true - I may just be over cautious BUT I don't like the porosity on the left side of the reverse and the pitting by the E in ONE - those are signs of a casting, not to mention the polishing scratches and uneven wear. Let others chime in and see what they see and say. This isn't on Craig's list is it?
Edited by Mark1959 09/12/2017 7:37 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Personally I'm skeptical of the authenticity, even thought the MM position is approximately correct for one of the dies. The rim cut will always hurt the appeal of this coin even if genuine. I would NEVER buy this coin raw. Please be careful. 
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Quote: Personally I'm skeptical of the authenticity I agree. There are some coins that I would never buy unless slabbed and this is one.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Rest in Peace
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I don't like the looks that could be casting marks. Regardless, unless you really know this coin buying an un-authenticated 16-D is a huge gamble. I would arrange for it to go to NGC or PCGS as part of the purchase. Pay for it when it comes back.
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Been comparing the real deals to this one - does anybody else think the D is too "square" ? On the real examples I've been looking at, at least the top part of the D tends to be rounder. Along with all the other problems.........
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Pillar of the Community
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So the key on this one is where that rim damage is. I know a small dealer in town who had one he sent in to get graded, was rejected as altered due to them drilling into the edge of the coin, and pressing a D there.
Its possible in this instance and I'd be VERY skeptical of the damage right there. Also, it does look like there are some worrying casting bubbles in the reverse field.
I'd hold off, and wait for a graded/verified
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Pillar of the Community
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Fake at first appearance! The MM should be more of a triangular diamond shape, plus what other has mentioned.
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Pillar of the Community
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As stated if genuine it would be cleaned and damaged. There are certain coins I would also never buy raw. 1916 d merc, 1893 s morgan, 1894 morgan, to name a few cause there are a lot of fakes and altered coins out there. Be cautious.
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Rest in Peace
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Details mushy, off-color, MM wrong, rim to fields wrong, good hole filler for a buck... 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The MM doesn't look right to me as stated above . Good idea to stand clear . 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Is this post a joke? It cannot be serious because the coin's reverse is laughable.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well OP stated he's going to buy this "coin" in 3 hours - he has 20 minutes left - hope he read all these replies and cancelled his journey. Be nice to hear from him that he cancelled.
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Valued Member
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thank god for you guys. You guys saved me again. after reading these comments I declined the coin. thanks a million guys
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I have a hard time believing you were even contemplating spending the $3000-5000 this coin would have demanded if real, on a raw version of one of the most counterfeited issues in history. And if the seller didn't want that much money, it'd be an even bigger red flag.
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