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My understanding is that luster is the result of small ridges on the surface of coins produced when metal flows into the die under pressure. These ridges are fragile.
Does the act of pressing coins with luster into and out of coin boards and dansco/whitman type albums affect the luster of these coins?
How do you insert and remove coins without affecting the surface of your coins? IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I imagine it could if you did enough repetitive removals/insertions. I've always used a fingernail on the raised rim edge for pressing; it also gives the most leverage.
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I assume, as SsuperDdave said, if you do it enough, the luster will be affected and using the rim allows more leverage. I don't have enough personal experience to say for sure but, I avoid any contact with the fields if at all possible.
The two proof 50 States quarter albums I'm doing (silver & clad) have been a challenge because of the coin dimensions compared to the hole. Sometimes it takes quite a bit of pressure to secure them (more than I can supply with a fingernail). I'm using Dansco for those.
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09/16/2017 03:25 am
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Thanks. I was reading another discussion elsewhere (I thought this would have been discussed more in the past - sorry if I am rehashing well tread territory) that using a low grade coin of the same type and using it to push coins in and out making only rim to rim contact was one way to do this. I suppose this wouldn't work with high relief coins like the 1921 Peace dollar that don't stack or early coins struck without collar where the rims weren't uniform or raised very much. But it might work with most coins. I remember when I used to put coins in danscos that they weren't always exactly rotated correctly and had to remove them and reinsert them more than once. I used to used a tissue balled up slightly to push them in. Not sure that was the best method. And I couldn't always get the small thin coins to sit level at the right depth without a lot of adjusting which felt like I was damaging the coin. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I agree on the quarters/Dansco tightness issue. Additionally, I recently made the Baseball HOF commem the SECOND concave/convex U.S. issued coin when trying to fit my Type III 3 cent silver in the 7070 album. PG  |
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When pressing in a coin,I use the plastic slide,laid on top of the coin/coins.That way I can press anywhere on the coin rim,and not touch any other coin by mistake,in the process. I figure,being softer than the coin,it should scratch the plastic before the coin.But I'm no expert.  |
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Also be aware those plastic slides aren't harmless either. Press the coins from the obverse into the page before removing the slide. Lots of high grade coins have slide marks from these pages.
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I figure,being softer than the coin,it should scratch the plastic before the coin. Not really a good idea .Why would you want to scratch the plastic slide ? I just pull the top and bottom slide out far enough to expose the coin I want to remove , then with very soft cloth press the coin into the next page. Close both slides and carefully pick up coin from the next page . |
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I'm used to Dansco albums so I'll comment on those. If you're inserting and removing coins frequently then you are moving the slide for at least 6 coins at a time (depending on the album) thereby increasing the opportunities for friction and other problems not only for the coin you're removing but for the others as well. I believe the increased friction and pressure to remove a coin could affect their surfaces if done enough. If you have higher valued coins, the safest thing would be to wait to fill up a section until you were sure you had all of the coins needed and you won't need to access them for awhile. I know that's difficult though.
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While the Dansco and similar albums produce lovely displays for sets, I still prefer 20, 12, and Lighthouse 9 page options. I also use the air tight 2x2's. Since I collect date sets, there is no option as I despise those hard plastic holders that scratch if you breathe on them. I've broken open enough Dansco albums to get at the coins I wanted to know that some of the coins must have used a sledgehammer for insertion. It takes PRESSURE to get them out, so it must have really taken muscles to put them in. Everyone knows to buy the coin, not the holder as it applies to TPG coins. That might be expanded to include albums. Then there is the problem of buying a TPG coin for a Dansco set that has to be cracked out. I've seen hundreds of examples on this forum when collectors ask the exact question about to crack out, or not. I have a 2x2 page with raw coins, which gives me plenty of writing space since there are no staples, followed by a 9 pocket page for my TPG Encased Coins. If you collect any other way than filling holes in an album, it is a system to consider. |
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If you have a uniform store near you (police-fire - etc), they almost always stock white cotton dress gloves. I bought a box of 12 pairs about 15 years ago and always wear them. You can push the coins into the holes without worry of getting anything on them, scratching them etc. I think I still have about 3 or 4 new pairs left in the box. Nowadays, I would assume Amazon carries them too... |
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I don't normally use dansco albums, but I do for my silver Eagles and proof silver Eagles. When I put them in the albums I will wear something that won't scratch the coin or leave fingerprints. Sometimes I use a glove, or a sock so my finger oils won't touch the coin. I still have a pristine set of each cause I took the extra caution to make sure my fingers didn't rub on them.
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mtuma3:If you have a uniform store near you (police-fire - etc), they almost always stock white cotton dress gloves. Thanks for the suggestion!  The new guy at work is an ex State Trooper,I'll bet He knows where too get a pair of gloves. The Wife hasn't been able find any so far. Edited by Cross-eyed
09/16/2017 3:15 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I would search Amazon for "Paaxco gloves for handling coins." They sell 16 pairs for $13. Free shipping with prime. The problem with dress gloves is that they may be chemically treated to remain as white as possible. Gloves designed to handle coins, jewelry and film tend not to have been treated that way. Some people also wear a rubber glove underneath so that perspiration does not soak into the cotton glove over time. I also use a face mask sometimes, so that I don't breathe on the coin inadvertently depositing water vapor and future spots on the surface. I do not believe I have OCD - could tell many stories about collectors that do. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Having used Dansco albums for almost 33 years, my best advice is patience. I also agree that the coin rim is your friend.
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