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CCF Advertiser
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So I hesitate to do this as I am going to list this coin for sale and you can't do this on the other FORVM. But this unknown is just so interesting I have to show it off/ask. Almost looks like a stylized walking Nike to me. Thinking like a migration period, late roman early Byzantine? Or should I be over in Indo Greek? 15 mm, 3.72 grams.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I will be very impressed if someone can definitively i.d. this one. It's a head-scratcher for me. My first thought was one of the wackier Anglo-Saxon/Northumbrian issues, like below. But I think that the resemblance is superficial:  Given the lack of evidence of a legend radiating outward from the center in the second pic, I'm pretty sure it's not from Northumbria. Is the "reverse" meant to depict two crosses flanking a letter or third cross? If so, would this suggest an imitation of a Byzantine issue? But wouldn't that suggest a portrait for the obverse? (I can't easily see a portrait in the wild linework of the other side) Or is that reverse upside-down? Does it depict a simplified temple or church facade with the "crosses" being part of the the structure upon a horizontal ground line? Or perhaps the "crosses" are letters? I will be chomping down popcorn for this one.  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Please pass the popcorn, Bob. Ill be checking to see opinions as I have a bronze somewhat like this that I've been putting in and out of the unknown box for a couple decades.
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CCF Advertiser
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First, glad it was not obvious and I did not embarrass myself posting it as a challenge! OK, a friend of mine from ebay thinks this might be an imitation Celtic Philippi of Nero or Claudius we all know quite well. It is quite different of course, but you do see a crude Nike and perhaps three standards right? Thoughts? https://cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=269577 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can't say I'm entirely convinced, but it's as good a guess as any. By flipping your reverse pic upside-down, and with a bit of imagination, I can see what he's referring to. (See below)  |
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CCF Advertiser
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Bob L, once you flipped it there are just too many coincidences. I am feeling my friend got this more and more. Thanks! I did not even think to flip it and it was so obvious to do so....
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Moderator
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Bob, all I can say is that your skills are amazing. Not in a million years can I match that coin to the Augustus Philippi and I have several of them.
BTW Joe, did you see the question I asked you on one of my Prutah threads?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not me, Ron. It was Joe's ebay friend who seems to have figured it out. Without that guy we'd all be getting fat on the popcorn by now. |
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New Member
United States
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My friend Joe actually told me that he thought he recognized the Nike (Victoria or Victory of Augustus, as VIC-AVG, per the official types with lettering) when he first showed me his coin. Therefore, he also gets credit, though I helped him to complete the ID. There are at least a few other imitations of the Philippi type on the internet now. One is on Vcoins by Numismatik Naumann. Two others were sold by CNG Coins as IDs 284358 and 330607.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well done, Odysseos, and welcome.
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New Member
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Thanks! Also, I should have mentioned that Anything Anywhere currently has several of these Philippi imitations. Since the official Roman issues are very common, it's no big surprise to encounter imitations.
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