Need Help With This 1755-A Sou M French Colonies Coin

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edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 6:42 pm Just bought this on ebay, but don't know much about it. Could someone possibly tell me something about it. What denomination is it, and what is the translation on the obverse and reverse. I'd be willing to do the research if pointed in the right direction. Is there a source online to attribute the variety? Hope this is the right forum. PCGS has these listed in the Colonial section. Any comments are apprectiated. Thanks, Ed http://www.ebay.com/itm/1755-A-SOU-...p=true&rt=nc Report this Post to the Staff

numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11880 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 6:52 pm https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-explor...67-pscid-124 1 SOU This also appears in the RedBook if you have one. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 8:40 pm NGC has great resources for that information. Congratulations on a nice piece Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 9:25 pm 1755 A Sou Marque of Louis XV. A = Paris mint. The varieties were definitively catalogued by Bob Vlack; this is probably Vlack 361. The coin is actually billon, which is an alloy of silver and copper, originally at a 1:4 ratio; throughout the run of these coins, the silver content was debased, until by the end of its run in the 1760s it was little more than a silver-plated coin of high copper content. The denomination is one sou marque, also known as a sol double/double sou or 1/10th livre tournois d'argent. It was valued at 24 deniers, nominally, but in reality the precious metal content was worth much less. Une livre tournois was equal to 20 sols/sous, or 240 deniers. There were 6 livres to equal 1 (silver) ecu at the time this coin was made. nb: "Sou" is the later version of the term "sol" which became common after the late 17th c., itself derived from the Roman solidus and denarius (sols et deniers.) The obverse inscription is Latin for "Louis XV, by the Grace of God, King of France and Navarre." The reverse inscription is Latin, "SIT NOMEN DOMINI BENEDICTVM", which means "Blessed be the name of the Lord" These coins circulated in New France and the New England colonies through the mid 18th c. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 9:56 pm Thanks for the replies. I'll be looking at the NGC and RedBook. @paralyse, can't thank you enough for the pinpoint info, that would have taken me hours to come up with. Where can I get the Vlack info on the varieties? Won the coin by .77 with a last second bid, and less than $80 shipped with 8% ebay bucks was a really good price imo. I've never seen one come up before, and even though the audience is probably small, I was instantly infatuated, and it looked like possibly really good buy. There is still some of the billion silver wash present. Thanks Again, Ed Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11880 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 10:02 pm Congrats. Heritage shows only two sales of one (the same) coin like yours in its records. The first time it sold for $260 in 2000, and resold for $184 in 2001. That coin does not match your serial number. https://coins.ha.com/c/search-resul...veTab-071515 IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Edited by numismatic student 09/16/2017 10:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 10:06 pm The full title is "Illustrated Catalogue of the French Billon Coinage in the Americas" - Robert A. Vlack, 2004. It is out of print and Mr. Vlack passed on, sadly, in August of 2015. An excellent signed copy is currently available on ebay: 122704584852 This is a really good price and I would buy it if I could afford it at the moment. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 09/16/2017 10:24 pm Yes, thanks again. I did see the listing for Mr. Vlack's book on ebay. It looks like a beauty. Edited by edweather 09/16/2017 10:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
MikeF Pillar of the Community United States 3479 Posts	Posted 09/17/2017 01:49 am Oh my. That price seems really cheap to me. I've dabbled into French colony colonials. I paid $150 for this 1767 earlier this year. I think you did really well on it. Perhaps a steal!? Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 09/17/2017 7:48 pm The price Ed won his for is outstanding -- his coin was part of a batch sold at Heritage, by the way, some point in the past. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
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