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1863 Cuni Indian Head Cent

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Thoughts on grade and comments? Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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That's such a nice color but with what seems to be a weak strike - MS63
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64 very attractive.
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I'd be very surprised if it isn't a full 65. Lovely.
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Do you own this one?
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Most if not all 65's I've seen have a sharp, almost reflective bright luster. This does not.
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Very nice coin , obverse a hair weak . MS-64 .
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Probably the best I have seen.
Grading wise, I am with the majority.
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I graded this 64 earlier, but now lean toward 63 despite the absence of detracting marks. It is most appealing, but somewhat bland, and lacks the bright surfaces that these copper nickel coins usually show in higher grades.
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Is this more fantasy bait?
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MS-64.
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I see a 64, weak obverse hair, weak diamonds, remarkably clean fields
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This one is graded MS62 by PCGS but the seller wants MS63+ money. I guess he thinks it is undergraded too. I think I'd like to pick out a nice one in a 63 holder. Thanks for all your thoughts.

nfine, sorry for the delayed reply. Usually if I own the coin I state it in the first post - sometimes I forget. I post more coins I am considering than ones I own. I don't own that many.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Whoa. That's a....pretty strong 62. I could see 63 money for it.
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