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Can Anyone Explain This? Is It An Error Coin?

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 Posted 12/19/2005  06:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Daniel J. Goevert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone:

One of my website visitors sent me the photo below. It appears to be a Lincoln Cent that has a portion of the Memorial stamped across Abe's face. Has anyone ever seen something like this before?

Here is the pic:
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If anyone knows anything about this item, please let me know.

Thank you!
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 Posted 12/19/2005  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess and say some one put two 1 cent coins in a vise and squeezed them. for this to happen in the mint the coin would have to flip between presses or the previous coin would not have been ejected.
A better picture would help.

Just my 2 Cents worth.
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 Posted 12/19/2005  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen both fakes and real coins. If the coin was a flip over strike, it would look like this. However, the devices would be raised. Without the coin in hand, it is impossible to authenticate the piece. As a result it is always easier and better to side with caution.
Suggest to the person that they submit it to Anacs.
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 Posted 12/19/2005  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Makes perfect sense. If 2 coins were put in a vise the memorial would be an inny, if flipped and hit again at the mint it would be an outty.

So I guess you have to ask your visitor if he's an inny or an outty. [:p]
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 Posted 12/19/2005  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are legitimate jailhouse lincoln cents,caused by an agressive die clash,, I cant tell from the photo the characteristics of this particular coin,

ND made a good suggestion, submit it for authentification to ANACS,,

Rick
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 Posted 12/19/2005  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daniel J. Goevert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I realize the photo isn't good, but that's all I got to work with.

I'll advise the coin owner to authenticate through ANACS. If it proves to be an authentic specimen, is this something fairly rare and possibly valuable?
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If there is any way to talk him into better pics, we might be able to save him the fees. If that is clashed dies, then the dies were rotated. I've never seen any with that orientation before, leading me to believe it's a squeeze job.

Ask him if the pattern of the reverse is raised or sunken on the obverse. If it isn't raised, it's not real.
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 Posted 12/19/2005  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daniel J. Goevert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good points, everyone. I've given the owner of the coin the address to this thread, so I hope he's following the commentary.
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 Posted 12/20/2005  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daniel J. Goevert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Following up:

The coin owner followed the advice given here, and determined his coin is a "squeeze" job.

He passes on his appreciation for everyone's efforts (though I wish he would register here at Coin Community and deliver his gratitude in person!)

I learned something too. That's why I keep coming back to this forum.
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Just in case someone does run across an authentic piece, they are not exactly the rarest of error coins, but are fascinating pieces and do command nice premiums.
The die rotation can be just about anything. As the planchet flips while in the press, it can fall into any position. I have seen some a full 180 degrees, and many with other alignments.

Here is an example of one that we owned a while back:

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