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When my last computer died I lost my data base for my collection. So I have now been slowly doing a new one on the new computer. I had a back up copy, but the new computer didn't accept the old program. So now I have to catalog about 1100 ancients using Access 2016. I'm curious how may ancients in your collections and how do you catalog them?

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Mine is catalogued on excel... its small but sweet.

12 large Greek silver
12 Small Greek silver
12 Greek Bronze

12 Roman coins
12 assorted India/Celtic/Byzantine coins
12 Chinese/Japanese coins

So just 72 (not including a few English medievals) amongst a file that runs to 2288 lines including watches, Coins, Banknotes and other collectables.

Sorry to hear you have all that work ahead of you, though you may find you actually enjoy the process of revisiting your coins in detail.
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I only have 25 and none of them are very expensive so this is my catalog system - just a 3 ring binder with attributes written on the 2X2's and a few have little info cards stuck in the flip that I started to do and really need to finish.


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I have to look into using Excel it might be better than what I'm using now. I used to have a fairly lager collection of bank notes and World coins, and I working on antique pocket watch repair until the arthritis in my hands stopped me from doing that. I did hold onto to a collection of Notgeld notes because I like the designs.

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I have about 3.500 coins catalogued :
Greek : 350
Roman : 725
Byzantin and Medieval : 120
Modern :1500-1900 : 2.300
Medals : 100 .
I have for every coin a photo and a description , for all my ancients and the most beautiful modern , I have the description printed and I keep every invoice I have .
You must have a lot of work by remaking your database . albert

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I only have like 50 and most do not have detailed identifications with them
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I think I'm back under 1,000? My collection absolutely follows the 80/20 rule; I have bags upon bags of low grade LRBs from my lot days; whenever I have time I try to sort through them to sell; they do very well on ebay if I put them into 2x2s and sell "collections" of say 20, 25, or 50 different emperors. Probably sold 500 coins that way, plus another 500-750 in bulk lots.

Let me see if I can break it down into estimates:

Greek
- ~10 attributed, acceptable grade
- 20 ish lower grade, unidentified

Celtic - 1
Celtiberian - 5?
Judaean - 12?

Roman
- Republican - 3
- Imperial portrait collection - 101
- Barbarous - 75ish
- Misc others - 100 ish

Byzantine - Maybe 10?

Medieval - 20ish

Persian
- Achaemenid - 1
- Parthian - 3
- Elymais - 2
- Persis - 1
- Himyar - 1
- Sassanian - 15ish
- Islamic Caliphate - 3
- Tabaristan - 2

Central Asian - 35?

Indian
- punchmarked - 9
- Post-Maurya - 3
- Indo Greek - 1
- Indo-Scythian - 1
- Indo Parthian - 2
- Western Satraps - 25?
- Satavahana - 3
- Kushan - 5
- Gupta - 4
- Post-Gupta - 5
- Hindu medieval - 15 ish
- Gadhaiya - Close to 200?
- Islamic - 5?

Chinese
- Ban Liang - 4?
- Wu Zhu - 10?
- Wang Mang - 4
- Tang - 2
- Song - like 150-200

Also have a backlog bag of about 150, and haven't taken stock of my sale fodder in a good while.

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Oh and speaking of the computer, does the hard drive still work? I was able to salvage the contents of my wife's old macbook with a $10 cable off of Amazon. There should be some free program that can help you recover your backups - Open Office boasts to be compatible with just about everything.

And silly me - I don't have anything catalogued at all. Only recently stated putting things in binders and most are attributed only in my own head!
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Impressive collections Albert and Steve, back when I was collecting World coins I cataloged several thousand of them. I would buy the Bundest Bank bags that had about 5000 coins per bag, mostly junk but every once in a while a good one would show up. I did the same thing with ancients, I would but the bags of 1000 uncleaned coins, this was when they were cheap. Too expensive to buy them now. Pick out the good ones clean them. The others I would mix in bags with the modern coins and sell off on ebay. I also gave away a lot to my grand kids schools, friends and family that had kids that wanted them. I had a fairly good collection still. I sold everything except for the ancients and a few odds and ends when I moved. Space is limited when I went from a house to living full time in a motor home.
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Echizento,
Can you run your old program in compatibility mode?
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Ron, I'm in that same range for size, but I'm using Excel. The only data not in excel are the pics, which I only started taking when I joined CCF.
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When the old computer died, I bought a device that helped me retrieve all the data from the old hard drive. The problem was that I was using MS Works for the data base which isn't capable with windows 10. I've tried several different programs to convert it over, but nothing worked. I don't mind doing the work and I'm really in no hurry getting it done.
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Catalog? What do you mean, catalog?

I try to "catalog" my coins by putting them on Numista, but for ancient coins this is exceedingly imperfect (both because Numista is still missing many ancient coin types, and because many of whatever types it does have are organized by sub-variety).
But other than that...

...I have a ziploc bag next to me on this desk that contains 19 ancient coins that I bought from a particular dealer a few months ago. For many of the coins, I'm still not entirely sure what they even are.
Some of those 19 did end up photographed to be posted for identification on CCF; I think one or two actually made it to CCF.

I'm looking at those 19 coins now. There's a badly cleaned Kushan and what looks like a barbarous radiate, a huge Byzantine follis next to a tiny Chach - I think it was Chach? - copper. For some others I don't know what they could be at all.
I'm pretty sure one of them is a late medieval silver. I don't even recall if I successfully identified that silver.

Catalog? What catalog? Haha don't be silly.

(But I should definitely actually go and take at least some pics of those 19 coins, and then actually post them on CCF. Let's make it my project for this weekend: the 19-coin lot identification day.)


...I estimate that my collection contains about a hundred assorted ancients, by the way.
Though the boundary is somewhat fuzzy - I do, after all, have a coin from every century (all 26 of them, that is).
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I collect in all cultures all eras, ancient to modern. I am a generalist, not a specialist. Nevertheless ancients are my first numismatic love. I have been collecting for more than 50 years.


For ancient coins in my collection over 1,000 years old:
11 gold coins: (Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Pre Roman Celtic, Indian and Islamic).
65 silver coins: (as above, but includes 2 south-east Asian coins)
145 bronze coins: (as above also, which includes 11 Chinese coins).
1 lead coin: (South Indian)


These are included in a collection of about 4,000 coins.
Perhaps needless to say, I have an extensive numismatic library to support such a collection. Despite this, I still heavily rely on others in the CCF, who have the specialist knowledge that I lack. You would expect that from a generalist collector, such as myself.

I have been very fortunate to have support when I need it for most of my numisamatic life, from some very highly qualified numismatic professionals, who I consider to be my personal friends who are lifetime members of the Australian Numismatic Society, which recently celebrated it's 100 birthday. That is why I have been able to build my collection with confidence.

I have all coinage metals and alloys from which circulation coins have been struck except antinimony.

No need to recover my information.
It is all recorded in writing on the 2x2 which protects the coin. When the collection is re arranged occasionally with new additions, the information moves with the coin.
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Greek gold:
Macedon Philip 11 gold stater, Pella, 8.56 grams. Thunderbolt below chariot, Le Rider 121. Bought from Spinks London 1978, GB680 Pounds. Have sale documents and polaroids.

Roman gold:
Augustus aureus. Rev. Caius and Lucuis Casars. BMC513, C42, Ric 350. Bought from collection of Seaby's employee, Sydney 1992, for AUD $750. Have sale documents and polaroids.

Vespasian Aureus, Rev. 'COS.ITER.TR POT' Pax seated left. 6.96 grams, struck Rome AD70. Ric 10, BMC26, sim. Sear 672.
Bought Spinks London, 1977. Have sale documents and polaroids.

Constantius 11 Solidus, Nicomedia Mint, Sim Sear 3988. 4.6 grams. Rev, Roma & Constantinopolis seated holding shield 'GLORIA REPVBLICAE in shield 'VOT.EX.MVLT.XXX' BOUGHT Sydney, 2013, for AUD 795.

Leo 1 (457-74) Solidus. Constantinople. Bought Sydney, Aud $600, 2013.

Byzantine:
Phocas (602-10), solidus. Rev. angel standing left, holdinfg staff and globus cruciger. 4 83 grams. Bought Sydney, 2014, AUD 525.

Constantine 11 (668 685) tremmissis. Constantinople. Ex D.J. Foster collection. (Noble Numismatics records) Sear 1160. Bought for AUD 300, 2015.

Theophilus (828-42) solidus, Syracuse mint. thick dumpy flan. Sear 1670. ex D.J. Foster collection (Noble Numismatic records). Bought I.S Wright for $795, 2016.

Indian:
Kushan gold stater, Kipananda, 330-60 AD, Obv. king standing, rev. Ardoshoko enthroned, Mac 3584, Bought Sydney, I.S. Wright for AUD 400, 2013.

Ceylon Chola gold kahavanu, 3rd type. c/- 990 1070 AD. Ref. Michener non Islamic 625. Bought AUD 450, Spinks Noble Sydney, 2013.


Celtic Britain:
Durotrigues c/- 58-45 BC base gold stater, 5.2 grams. Spinks Noble lot1684. Sale 111., 2014. Mack 317.


The earliest Isalmic gold that I have just misses out in being more that 1,000 years old. (Ghazvavid and Sulayhid dinars). I needed help to have those coins properly authenticated and attributed. Noble Numismatics helped me out in this regard.


All coins in either Fine or very Fine condition.




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Some of my more intersting silver ancients:

Greece:
Athens tetradrachm: struck between 443-13 BC. Bought for AUD 295 Spinks, Sydney, 1991.

Thyrrheium: (Colony of Corinth) didrachm, (250 -29 BC), Obv. Athena wearing Corinthian helmet, amphora behind head, Rev. Pegasos flying left. Bought Spinks Noble, Sydney, 1991, for AUD 270.

Caria, Rhodos, didrachm:, (C/- 240 BC) 6.6 grams Obv. Helios facing, similar Sear 5034. Bought for AUD 300, I.S. Wright for AUD 380, 2014.

Thasos, tetradrachm: (after 148 BC) Obv. head of Dionysos right, Rev. Heracles standing left. Bought from I.S. Wright, for AUD AUD 275, 2013.

Egypt tetradrachm: Ptolemy X11, (53-52BC,) 12.8 grams, Obv. head of Ptolemy 1 right, Rev. eagle on thunderbolt. Sear 7947-8 variation, ex Geroge Coulayis collection. Bought for AUD 325, 2014.

Roman Syria: tetradrachm: Trajan, Rev. eagle standing on club right. Sear 1077. Bought for AUD 210, 2011.

Roman Syria tetradrachm: Tyre, Trajan, Rev. head of Melquarth facing right.

Roman:
Julia Domna antoninianus 4.91 grams In good quality silver, Rev. Venus seated right. Lovely coin in EF condition, well centered and struck. Bought for AUD 290 Noble Numismatics 2012.

Maximianus argenteus, Rev. tetrachy sacrificing in front of camp gate, in exergue: 'X. Bought for AUD 350 2011. I.S. Wright, Sydney.

South East Asia:
Mon Kingdom of Hamsavati, stater. 5th Century, 9 grams, Obv. ankh shell, Rev, temple, two pellets below. Mitchener SE Asia 517 -8. Bought for AUD 190, 2016. Noble Numismatics, Sydney.

Area of Bactria, (white Huns of Asia):
Hephthalites, drachm: 3.27 grams, Bust with bull head dress right, Rev. fire altar with attendants. Sharply struck, EF. Bought for AUD 130 2012, I.S wright, Sydney.


All coins Fine or better.
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