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*** Edited by Staff to remove YELLING. All capital letters is the internet version of yelling. Please do not do it in titles or posts. ***

YES THERE IS A COIN GOD! Don't know what I did right but I must have hit his soft spot!

I live in North Texas. We have hail and wind storms. About every 10 years or so the insurance company pays for a new roof- if you work it right. I got a new one installed Friday. The roofers are all Mexican. I do not know if they are legal or not because that is not my business.

I have a large home in the country and the installation crew was about 15 guys. It was Friday and payday so about noon wives with kids started showing up. I have a large garden with lots of peppers that were going to waste so I offered to share, and let the families eat together on my property.

Much later, while talking with the supervisor, the conversation got to my interest in ancient coins. He told me that he had a bag of ancient coins that his father had given to him and he did not know what they were worth. Thinking they were probably junk I told him they were probably worth about a dollar each. He said he would sell them to me for one dollar each.

Today he showed up with 486 coins. I gave him $500. He is happy and I am happy. LOL! I don't know where they came from but most have a desert patina. Most are Roman, some Byzantine, a few Greek, and a couple of Islamic. A quick look at the mints looks like mostly Eastern Empire. Looks like I have some RIC searching to keep me occupied for a while. WOOT!

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 Posted 09/30/2017  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yowza! Who says there are no ancient hoards to be found in North America?

Well done!
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 Posted 09/30/2017  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pendrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey guys-
I am so sorry I did something wrong by using caps in my title post that was promptly and properly corrected by the staff. Using caps is something wrong called yelling. Well guys- I did some yelling and might do a bit more. Woot! Later-

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 Posted 09/30/2017  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats - heck of a stash you just acquired!
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Wow! I wasn't expecting that when I started reading. With my current level of knowledge, that bunch would keep me busy for years!

Well done.
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 Posted 10/01/2017  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an amazing pick-up. Nice work!
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 Posted 10/01/2017  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! some people have all the luck. Excellent hoard congrats.
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Very lucky. How about sharing your luck with a contest when you reach 50 posts
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By hook or crook, get a copy of
Late Roman Bronze Coinage (LRBC) (123 pages), by
Carson Hill & Kent.
Perhaps you may be able to get a copy from Spinks books, London. It may cost you around U.S. $50 or so.

Although a bit difficult to decipher, this book will provide most of the knowledge you may need regarding emperors, mints and officinae.

I managed to obtain a copy on personal advice, when I visited the
British Museum Coins and Medals Department, some years ago, with a specific need to look at Roman gold coins and Roman bronze coins.

Collecting and studying LRBC's (Late Roman Bronze Coins), is the ancient equivalent of collecting and studying LWC's (Lincoln Wheat Cents) !

Once you have fully attributed them, this collection should have a total value of around $5,000. You have to earn your money; there is some major work ahead of you!
Enjoy!
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 Posted 10/01/2017  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackPenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, congratulations! That is a very exciting thing to have happen!
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 Posted 10/01/2017  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations. That is a nice group. Obviously from different find sites. That will be a lot of fun to work through.
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 Posted 10/01/2017  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a god , but a goddess : Fortuna . Congratulations and keep that luck . albert
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 Posted 10/01/2017  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or, if you prefer, St. Eligius

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 Posted 10/02/2017  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! That's nuts. Congrats! At some point do give us a run down of what you ID in that hoard! Some of those have really piqued my curiosity.
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OK here an update-

There are 484 coins not 486. Most have some type of desert patina. There are 18 Greek, 32 Byzantine, 9 Islamic, and 425 Romans.

The Romans- All are bronze. There are a few from the early Empire, some from the late 200s, some from the early 300s, then lots from Constantine and his family, and lots from mostly Eastern Emperors through Arcadius. Size is mostly AE3, then AE4, and quite a few AE2 size.

I was a bit disappointed with the number that had unreadable mint marks- about 20-25% but what can you expect for a dollar each. Most of the mints were Rome south and east. There are some Rome, a couple Carthage, and then the largest amount from Antioch followed by Constantinople, Nicomedia, Cyzicus, Heraclea, Thessalonica, and Alexandria.

I have scanned a few nice ones.
1. THEODORA. 16mm, 1.1 grams, RIC VIII 36, Constantinople.
Theodora AE follis. FL MAX THEODORAE AVG, Bust right in plain mantle & necklace / PIETAS ROMANA dot, Pietas facing, head right, carrying an infant; mintmark CONS epsilon.
2. CRISPUS. 18mm, 3.5 grams, RIC VII 240, Rome.
Crispus AE follis. CRISPVS-NOB CAES, laureate head right / CAESARVM NOSTRORVM around VOT X within wreath. Mintmark: RS.
3. JULIAN II. 21x24mm, 2.6 grams, RIC VIII 219, Antioch.
Julian II AE follis. DN FL CL IVLI-ANVS PF AVG, helmeted and cuirassed bust left holding spear and shield / VOT X MVLT XX, within wreath. Mintmark palm branch ANTDelta; palm branch.
4. JOVIAN. 18mm, 2.7 grams, RIC VIII 232, Antioch.
Jovian AE follis. DN IOVIAN-VS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right / VOT V MVLT X within wreath. Mintmark ANTA.
5. ARCADIUS. 19mm, 2.5 grams, RIC X 66, Cyzicus.
Arcadius AE3. D N ARCADI-VS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right / VIRTVS-EXERCITI, emperor standing left, head right, holding spear and resting left hand on shield. Victory, standing beside him, crowns him with a wreath held in her right hand. Mintmark SMKA.

This should give me something to do for a while- Later-

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Based on the dates and mintmarks any guess to where they came from? Do you think it's a single hoard?
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