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Old Japanese Coins Identification?

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Hi there can anyone please identify these 3 coins?
There is noThing on the the other side of the coins.
Are these rare? And does anybody know if the patina is natural?

Thank you in advance.
John.
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Based on the quality of manufacture, I'm pretty sure these are all Chinese song dynasty coins:

http://www.calgarycoin.com/referenc...a5.htm#north sung

The Japanese did copy Song coins, but they are usually of a very inferior quality. I don't think these are Nagasaki trade coins, either.
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The top right one does look like a Northern Song dynasty coin—a Xuanhe one made from 1119 to 1125, I would think. If you scroll to the very bottom of the link posted above, it should be in the last section with visible pictures. It looks like it can also be found here.

The other two look more like Tang Dynasty ones. Probably Qianyuan ones made from 759 to 762 (this one).

Although, I will make no call on authenticity, and I have no idea if they are Japanese copies or not.
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