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1816 Norwegian Skilling

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 Posted 05/10/2008  12:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am open to any opinions about this coin. How would you guys grade it? Are these rather scarce? Also, why is it that this coin is not listed in the 4th edition of the Krause Standard Catalog, yet the pic of this type of coin is of an 1816?



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 Posted 05/10/2008  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is listed, KM# 284. If you look at the picture given for KM# 284, you'll see the date on that coin is "1812" - the date for KM# 281. They've simply got the pictures for #281 and #284 mixed up.

Checking NumisMaster, I see that this is one of the (many) errors in the 4th edition that have now been rectified. Your coin is KM# 284.
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 Posted 05/10/2008  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oooh, thanks, Sap! good call.

I think that this coin is an EF, but what does everyone else think?
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 Posted 05/10/2008  04:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty strict at grading, so I'd grade it gVF - the lion and high points of the crown look a bit too flat for me to comfortably call it EF.
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Nice to see a Norwegian coin here :-) This is in fact the first coin made in Norway after Norway entered an union with Sweden in 1814. It has become a somewhat difficult coin to get hold of. I cannot agree with your grade, in Norway this is no more than straight VF. I have an EF myself and there is a big difference between your lion and mine. Coins of your grade tend to fetch around $100 in local auctions, so don't sell it for the Krause valuation - unless the buyer agrees with your EF.
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well, my scanner as always makes coins look a bit worse than they are. In the case of this coin, I was a bit optimistic with my grading since so many of the design features are VERY sharp despite the flatness of the lion. I had been thinking that this might have just been a flat strike. But I'm still happy with it being a VF. THanks for the opinions, Sap and Litotes.
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It is true that a lot of Norwegian coins have been victims of flat strikes, but that is not common for this type. The crown is also weaker than my coin in EF, and the coin on the whole does not indicate the freshness I demand of an EF. Still, opinions wary, I am not an expert and I am not especially familiar with American grading practice. I have heard that you are far less strict than us Scandinavians.

I have seen similar coins to this one, though, so I at least know their value - which has been heading upwards the last few years. I would hold on to it if I were you.
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Ah, well thanks for the info, everyone. And I'm glad to hear that my 25 cent junk box find is of value!
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