Any Idea What This Could Be? Canadian 25c Recessed/Reversed "coin"

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trc New Member United States 11 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 12:15 am Hello all, I made another post to the Main forum with some estate sale finds, and posted this "coin", but it was recommended that I post it here instead: Quote: For the Canadian 1909 quarter can you please post larger pictures in the Canadian error forum? I was looking at that and thought the scan inverted the image. Could you also do a few simple tests and post the results: weight of the coin, is it magnetic? This coin should be sterling silver, should be roughly 5.8g If it is aluminum, then the weight would be way lighter, and unlikely a legit coin. Essentially I am just wondering what this could be. The design is recessed into the object and reversed. It also seems to be aluminum or another light metal, so I don't think anyone would be striking this with anything. Maybe some kind of pressed mold? I did some tests. First, the object is not magnetic at all. The weight is 1.3g: The size of the object is 25.11mm, and an actual 1909 Canadian quarter appears to be around 23.62mm. Here are some shots of the obverse. You can see the text is reversed and recessed into the metal. And then a shot of the reverse, which has some bit of metal missing. Maybe a casting imperfection? Anybody have any ideas on what this is? Rich Report this Post to the Staff

spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 12:23 am It looks like someone used one or two actual quarters to make a reverse/inverse image on an aluminum round or slug (or even an aluminum coin). Possibly to create a "soft die" but, it may have just been fooling around. I don't see any way this is not made outside of the mint. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Edited by spru 11/08/2017 12:25 am Report this Post to the Staff
Hounddog Bill Pillar of the Community Canada 1223 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 09:05 am I find it odd that they used an obverse that was not produced until well after 1909. I think it's just someone exercising there creative abilities. Cheers, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
ace_ftw Pillar of the Community Canada 1747 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 11:52 am with the larger images I would concur, being that this should be an Edwardian coin, not George V. Sorry this is just some garage job Report this Post to the Staff
unruhjonny Pillar of the Community Canada 514 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 12:17 pm I agree that someone was having fun.. or something; probably made of aluminum... neat, but arguably worthless. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 4:44 pm OK now it makes more sense. In the other thread you said the images were reversed and RAISED. No way to do that without starting from scratch and creating a raised and reversed hub. Both sides incuse and reversed just squeezed between two coins. I've seen some poor quality contemporary counterfeits made this way, usually using a lead or lead and tin pewter planchet to give it some weight. (With the right alloy of lead and tin you can match the weight and SG of silver, but the alloy will be soft and take a good impression readily.) This one is so light though that aluminum is probably the only possibility. Tin or zinc would probably be closer to 4 to 5 grams. Report this Post to the Staff
trc New Member United States 11 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 6:04 pm Thanks for the insight, everyone. I assumed it was a garage job/worthless just wondering if anyone had seen anything similar before because I hadn't. :) Report this Post to the Staff
trc New Member United States 11 Posts	Posted 11/08/2017 6:08 pm Quote: In the other thread you said the images were reversed and RAISED Thanks Gary. I said relief in the other thread, but I meant recessed. Sorry for confusing you. The reverse image is also rotated about 45*, so you're probably right it was just carelessly pressed between two coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Canacoins Pillar of the Community Canada 955 Posts	Posted 11/11/2017 7:33 pm Maybe worthless but the factor is off the charts ( at least to me ) Neat. Report this Post to the Staff
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Any Idea What This Could Be? Canadian 25c Recessed/Reversed "Coin"