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Hi everyone I am new to the forums. My wife works at a bank and sometimes finds old coins and buys them off her draw. She bought 3 Morgan dollars from her draw and came home and we looked them up and found that one of them is worth allot. We checked the telltale signs of being faked and there are no imperfections, they all seem to match up to examples I see of genuine coins. I just want to know if you can tell if they are real and what the value is? If you need any other pictures let me know. 1889 CC Morgan - 24 grams 1895 O Morgan - 26.81 Grams 1884 S Morgan - 26 Grams   Edited by asleboeuf
05/12/2008 7:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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All I can say is WOW!
I', nor familiar enough with Morgans to be able to say whether the CC is a fake or not. To me it doesn't look like it. I would definitely spend the $30 or so to have it authenticated and graded by PCGS.
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Valued Member
United States
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24 grams for a morgan in that condition? raised spots (a little blurry) in the hair between the corner of the eye and the liberty head band....hmmmmm....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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the 1899 CC is worth $1850 in VF20 according to the 2009 RedBook and it should weight around 26.73 grams. So I'm going to guess that the 1899 is fake the the other two are real. |
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It doesn't look like there is enough wear on the CC to take off ~3 1/2 grams of silver. That is about 14% of the total weight. Definitely suspect in my opinion. The G in God may be suspect also, I'm still researching that. nlp
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You can look at the CC locations and rotations at the VAM website. Here is a link to home page and surf to VAM Morgans and then year and date. nlp http://www.vamworld.com/ |
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United States
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24 grams scares the heck out of me, that is way to light for the condition of the coin. and if its fake it puts the other 2 in question as well because of the dates even though the weight seems rather in check I would really check them out good to make sure, but I will almost bet the Carson City coin isn't real with that weight
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These coins scare me. All I collect are Morgans, and I am having a hard time finding visual faults with the 1889 cc. The weight is off by too much which pretty much guarantees that it's a fake. I have this picture from a Chinese counterfeit ring, look at the date. The 1889 cc is a valuable coin, which puts it high on the counterfeit list. They tumble the coins and then tone them artificially to make them look circulated. I would double check the weight and then have a dealer look at it. I would hate to be wrong when I say it's fake. It might even be worth the money to send it in to get graded.  Edited by NGiles
05/13/2008 01:24 am
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United States
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I'm a little suspicious of the filled in denticles, reverse, near ONE in one dollar. ( on the CC )
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05/13/2008 07:54 am
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I'd suspect the CC is fake. That coin is not worn enough to justify the weight difference.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 89 could be worn slick and it wouldn't lose enough weight to take it down to 24 grams. I'd say the 95-O is also a fake (Date placement is odd, digits not even and the 5 is too big.) The 95-O is also a semi key date.
Nothing jumps out at me on the 84-S screaming fake, but since it is also a better date, and has been a target of the Chinese counterfeiters, and since it appears the other two are fake I'm afraid it carries a stigma of guilt by association, and I would assume it is fake until proven otherwise.
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 The 1884 looks the most real; the other two not so much. |
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I hate to admit this, but this post has made me think a lot more about Counterfeit Detection and my own knowledge and skill. I got the scale out last night to weigh some morgan and Peace dollars. Thanks for the post! |
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 United States
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Hi everyone thanks for your replies, my wife actually had another one in her draw at work she brought home today here it is posted below. I guess its even more rare then the others, this one actually measures out between 26 and 27 (its a meat scale what else can I ask for) I posted pictures below so you can see, what do you think?   |
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United States
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1893 S.....100,000 minted, and previous coins....I'd have to be leary. I'd guess in the EF range if original, and worth getting authenticated/graded. My grade MAY have been biased by previous coins. Somebody must be dumping them so as not to raise TOO much suspicion perhaps?
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Posted 05/12/2008 7:48 pm
