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German Pfennig - Bundesrepublik Deutschland

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 Posted 05/12/2008  9:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Chaotech to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My Mother was in town visiting and brought me a handfull of coins she has held on to for a while... most I was able to get all the info I needed on, however I have a bunch of german coins I cannot find out the official name of them really... like for the US coins we call a .25 cent piece a "Quarter Dollar"

im assuming the ones with "50" on them are actually "1/2 Pfennig"
ones with "1" on them are actually "1 Deutsche Mark" ?

Does anyone have a link to a wiki page that lists the details of metal composition? I like to hang onto any old coins that may be silver... I would like to know what these coins are made of... Thanks


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 Posted 05/13/2008  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For German coins these days, it's 1 Euro = 100 Cent. Older pieces from the Federal Republic are mark based, with 1 Deutsche Mark = 100 Pfennig.

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Also, all coins from the Federal Republic (or Bundesrepublik in German) tell you their face value. So you see a digit (or two) and then (on the pre-2002 coins) either "Deutsche Mark" or Pfennig". Thus a "50" piece is a 50 Pfennig coin of course - the word Pfennig is right below the 50.

Some of the coins had or have nicknames. But those unofficial nicks do not appear on the pieces ...

And if you collect silver only, you can safely give away the pieces except for the 5 DM coins made between 1951 and 1974. Those are Ag625. A few collector coins are silver as well (either Ag625 or Ag925) but those did not really occur in circulation.

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Ones with just numbers - 1, 2, 5, 10, 50 - are pfennig. Coins denominated in deutschmarks actually say "Deutsch mark" on them.

The only circulating silver coins of either half of Germany post-WWII were the West German 5 marks, issued up to 1975.
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Well, "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" as mentioned in the subject would not include the GDR. But even the Pfennig coins from East Germany, issued before it joined the Federal Republic, clearly say Pfennig. By the way, the Mark was feminine, so what you see on the coins is either "Deutsche" or a valuable error.

Edit - Here is a list (English version) of the DM and Pf coins issued by the Federal Republic: http://www.bundesbank.de/bargeld/ba...ungen.en.php
That Bundesbank list focuses on descriptions rather than images; Wikipedia has some larger images: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsc...#M.C3.BCnzen

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Ok I cannot really find any composition info on these coins other than what you have here...

Here is my list can anyone list any that have silver?

50 Pfennig
1950
1974
1972
1949
1971

1 Deutsche Mark
1960
1963
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 Posted 05/24/2008  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None of those contains any silver - see the previous answers, and/or the bundesbank.de page that I mentioned before ...

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Both types are just Cupro-Nickel (CuNi25)... Nothing overly rare or expensive there, tho when it comes to german coins, the Mintmark is all important!
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Oh and just having checked the thread, you'll notice on the 1945 50Pf, the legend is NOT "Bundesrepublik Deutschland", but "Bank Deutscher Länder". BdL 50Pf were issed only in 1949; again though nothing that rare, despite what ppl try and tell you (the number of ppl who have tried to tell me that theyre 'rare' and 'scarce' or whatever, continues to grow... but theyre wrong!). You'll also notice the edges are different on the pre-72 50Pf.


Same goes with youre 1DM's; having just have a quick peek at Jaeger, there is nothing there of value, regardless of the mintmark...

And on that point, the Mzz will be either D (Munich), F (Stuttgart), G (Karlsruhe) or J (Hamburg). In 1990 or 1991 the A (Berlin) mintmark began to reappear on BRD coins (for obvious reasons).

Thanks about all I can say about then! :)
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I have a 1967 Bundes Republik 1 Deutsche Mark and would like to know more about it.
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Hi Daria, welcome to the forum.

In 1967, there were four mints in Germany striking these coins. The mintmark D, F, G or J can be found on the obverse, beneath the eagle's tail. None of the mintmarks are scarce for that year, though "D" is most common. In typical circulated (VF) condition, the coin is worth about a dollar. It's theoretical face value is currently around 80¢, but Germany uses the euro now, and these coins are obsolete.
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Errm, what exactly does "obsolete" mean? Sure, the 1 DM piece is not legal tender any more. But you would still get €0.51 for it (at any Bundesbank branch office) which, as you wrote, is about $0.80 these days.

Practically that may be a little difficult, and not worth the effort, indeed. Then again, that applies to exchanging pretty much every current coin as well ...

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Hello fellow humans,

I'm wondering if someone could tell me the last year that German Pfennig and Mark coins were minted - I understand that they might have been minted for collecting/mint sets etc in 2000 or 2001... which was the last year?

Many kind regards,
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The DM and Pf circulation coins were last minted in 1996. In the following years (1997-2001) they were basically made for sets only.

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Thanks Chrisild... I guess there is another question few questions that I've thought of... If the last year of mintage was 2001 (in sets) were they minted in all five german mints i.e. do they have A, D, F, G, J? mint marks for all or a portion of the coins?
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Right, the "sets only" pieces (1997-2001) were made by all five mints. Strictly speaking, F/Stuttgart and G/Karlsruhe are two production facilities of the same mint (Münze Baden-Württemberg), as the German mints are state (not federal) operations. But if what counts is the mintmarks, yes, the 2001 sets come in all five varieties ...

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