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A Continuing Thread ~ Post Your Tokens, Medals, Exonumia Acquisitions

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 Posted 05/24/2018  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, I'd like to thank Bas S Warwick for making me the lucky recipient of the WWI Australia Medal noted above.
What a guy!
Secondly, I'd like to say that I appreciate his participation in this thread. Neat medals you have there!

a marriage to preserve peace between France and Spain

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after Charles died without an heir, peace evaporated quickly and the Spanish Succession War began

Very interesting!
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 Posted 05/24/2018  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have a spare one of these, so if anyone wants one please send me a PM.

Bronze Medal issued to mark the end of WW1. Awarded the school children of the Commonwealth of Australia


TNG is the lucky recipient.
Medal will be on its way to the US of A - ASAP
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 Posted 05/24/2018  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has been my lucky day!
I went to the monthly coin club meeting tonight and .
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This is a "One of a kind" elongated coin.
There was only one of the elongated coins rolled on a Mexico 1 Peso. I bought it during the coin club auction at the meeting tonight. ( Peso shown for type coin used )
Our Williamsport PA coin club had 500 uncirculated 1973 US cents elongated for complimentary handouts to all who enter the upcoming coin show on July 28 2018 along with the free door prize ticket that is drawn every hour during the show. ( Good prizes just for showing up )
LINK to CCF Calendar http://goccf.com/t/312115

The complete box of delivery was at the show, there were also 5 extra elongated cents that were auctioned off. There was also a special set containing a US cent, dime, nickel quarter and a SBA dollar. These were packaged like a mint set and 4 more sets remain in the treasury for future plans.

But I got the only "one of a kind" in the whole lot and there are no others.
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 Posted 05/25/2018  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I went to the monthly coin club meeting tonight and .
Very nice!
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 Posted 05/25/2018  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1904 Louisiana Purchase Exposition - Joseph Wharton International Nickel Company
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This medal is especially important to me as I am TNG ~ short for TheNickelGuy. I collect US and Canadian "Nickels".

Joseph Wharton is "The original Nickel Guy"!

This has a rarity factor of R4.
Best I can determine is that there are between 76 and 200 surviving medals.

Obverse. Bearded bust of Joseph Wharton
Malleable Nickel First Produced in 1865 by Joseph Wharton Sc.D., L.L.D.
Reverse. American Malleable Nickel - International Nickel Company 1904
St. Louis Exposition
Nickel composition - 33 mm diameter

Joseph Wharton was influential in persuading the United States Mint to issue the first five-cent nickel coins in 1866, using nickel produced from his mines.
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Hoping to profit from the use of nickel in coins, Wharton in 1863 sold his interest in zinc and started the manufacture of nickel at Camden, New Jersey, taking over a nickel mine and refining works at Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania. The Camden plant was located on the east side of 10th Street, adjacent to Cooper Creek, and had several large brick buildings and smokestacks. Wharton renamed the Camden plant the American Nickel Works, and his office there became his center of operations. However, the use of nickel in coinage was temporarily halted, and soon the Camden plant burned. Wharton rebuilt it in 1868 and made excellent profits from producing nickel because it became favored for coinage. Wharton won wide acclaim for his malleable nickel, the first in the world, and also for nickel magnets, and received the Gold Medal at the Paris Exposition of 1878. His factory produced the only nickel in the US and a significant fraction of the world supply. Eventually the surface deposits at the Gap mine were depleted and Wharton was obliged to purchase nickel ore from a mine in Sudbury, Ontario, Canada.

My Big nickel medal from Canada
( These are silver dollar size and were made in aluminum or nickel )

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This experience was a challenge to Wharton, who learned about market economics and protection when foreign nickel manufacturers opposed his nickel purchasing and manufacture efforts. Wharton by then had learned the value of meeting personally with his managers and regularly inspecting the mines and manufacturing plants with them. He was successful because he worked hard to increase efficiency and profitability of the businesses he acquired, and energetically pursued markets for his products.

Wharton made a robust profit from his nickel business over its 40-year duration, but by 1900 its outlook was fading due to foreign competition.
Wharton and a group of other United States and Canadian nickel enterprises formed the International Nickel Company (Inco) in 1902.
He sold his American Nickel Works in Camden and the Gap mine for a share in the new company, and was named one of the dozen board members. By this time the profitability of his business empire did not depend on the manufacture of nickel because he had already diversified into other profitable businesses.

I would imagine we would have seen this medal and possibly met Joseph Wharton at the Palace of Mines and Metallurgy at the 1904 St Louis Fair.

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 Posted 05/25/2018  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great story TNG
very interesting
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 Posted 05/25/2018  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the same year as the previous medal I posted

1679, financial bureau of king Louis XIV of France

OBV: HAEC META. LABORUM (this is how we work) Figure with bountiful harvest under a radiant sun
below CHAMBRE AUX DENIERS 1679.
REV portrait of the Louis XIV, king of France and Navarre

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The "chamber of dimes" was the accounting bureau for the personal expenses of the King of France between ±1200 and 1700. It is also known as "hotel room". Revenues and expenses of the king are accounted for.

No need to explain that the balance sheet per year of Louis XIV (Roi Soleil) contained enormous sums. Jetons like this one were small tools to do the extended calculations.

Again some copper oxide on this coin, but I think it is not hindering but charming; it just belongs there as a slowly growing skin with wrinkles of age.
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 Posted 05/25/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1679, financial bureau of king Louis XIV of France


Its a beauty - and 1679. Love the old ones
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 Posted 05/25/2018  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@TNG

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First off, I'd like to thank Bas S Warwick for making me the lucky recipient of the WWI Australia Medal noted above.
What a guy!
Secondly, I'd like to say that I appreciate his participation in this thread. Neat medals you have there!


This week I have given away 10 coins/medals because I have always believed in the inspirational quote by Saint Francis of Assisi about the value of giving: "For it is in giving that we receive."

It has always worked for me and I know I will receive much in reward.
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 Posted 05/25/2018  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fan of St Francis and the prayer Bas!
I use it but not often enough. I am not that well either, however maybe I'm pointed in the right direction.

Now that I have seen your other medals, I think I want to rescind my suggestion of using that Verdi Care on the Sun/Moon medal.
Your vintage collection seems to go together better in a natural way. Very cool additions!
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 Posted 05/26/2018  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a little post about 2 medals I have that have to do with the early increased interest of collecting "Full step" Jefferson nickels.
They have appeared on CCF before ( quite a few years ago already ) and deserve a spot in this thread.
If anyone ever sees any more of these, I suggest you nab it before I do.
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Let's just call the first an EGO token, cause Adolf had a big one. This guy was a mentor of mine, he sure knew an awful lot about coins and the minting process. Was definitely a pioneer in errors and varieties studies.
I was a member of PAK until it, as well as Adolf Weiss disappeared in the early 1980's.
I saw a lot of the very best Jefferson nickels ever minted at many a study sessions with him and other members at a kitchen table in White Haven PA, when he would come down from Montclair NJ to our monthly coin club meetings. We would stay up ALL NIGHT studying.

The "Full-Step" Jefferson nickel Club. PAK is an acronym consisting of the first initial of the first name of the three founders of the Club
Philip Petrillo, Adolf Weiss, and Karl Nenninger).
I am not sure what happened to the other two founders, I am sure they are collectors if they are still around, but the cranky old timer Adolf may have been the only active founder/member shortly after the club formed. He was not an easy guy to get along with. He taught, taught well, but you better be paying attention.
I was lucky he liked me. Maybe because he got a kick out my little 3 yr old red-headed daughter who could tell him the date on the nickel and knew how to use a glass.
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 Posted 05/26/2018  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bas S Warwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Interesting - I love stories like that from the old days.

Those old medals are fun, but I'll probably never come across one in NZ.

Verdi-care - I'll just be experimenting on a few old coppers just to see the effect. I tried a very small experiment this afternoon but I could feel the fumes affecting my eyes even with a very small drop, so I think its goggles and gloves next time.
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 Posted 05/26/2018  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
from the same period with vintage copper, perhaps better not treated with any cleaning agent, as is has been gently altered by time

1700 Ville De Bar (today Bar Le Duc, France)

Jeton of the chamber of finances of the city (in those days capital of a duchy)

OBV: coat of arms of the city two basses (bar in French)
Legend: IETS DE LA CHAMBRE DE VILLE DE BAR
(Jeton of the bureau of finance of the city of Bar)
REV: motto of the city: PLUS PENSER QUE DIRE
(think twice before you speak)
three pansies in the middle; four pansies in the legend
a pansy is translated as pensee in French

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coat of arms on the old "Court House" in Bar Le Duc
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some more food for translation @TNG

Plus penser que dire
Me convient souvent,
Sans montrer comment
N' à quoi mon cœur tire.

Feignant de sourire
Quand suis très dolent,
Plus penser que dire
Me convient souvent.

En toussant soupire
Pour secrètement
Musser mon tourment.
C'est prive martyre,
Plus penser que dire.

poem sometimes attributed to the French poet prince Charles d'Orleans (1394-1465)
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 Posted 05/26/2018  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I keep my thoughts to myself and tell nobody
and I hide what my heart feels

Pretending to smile when I am terribly sad
What I think almost always is not what I say

Choking on my secrets
I am in torment
A martyr alone

Full of self pity
and I keep it to myself.



I think that is generally what it says.
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