1783 Nova Constellatio Copper - Croby 2B Pointed Rays, Small US

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numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11896 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 09:55 am Picked this up for $283. Pics were small and blown up aren't great. Thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks! IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Edited by numismatic student 12/02/2017 09:56 am Report this Post to the Staff

bandsdean Pillar of the Community United States 2125 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 12:02 pm Just the cleaning, A lot of these had planchet issues which is what I believe is around the "U.S" Looks to be VF-30. Going to subscribe to this and wait for better pics once you get her in hand :) Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11896 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 12:41 pm This coin appears to be in a PCI slab. The seller however has made an effort to conceal the grade on the slab. I don't really care because I am buying a coin, not a number on a slab but it does make me curious about what PCI said. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Edited by numismatic student 12/02/2017 12:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11896 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 1:09 pm I was just reading that the red label on a PCI slab was indicative of a problem coin grade. I think the second picture in the latter post shows enough of the bottom of the label to show that it is in a problem red slab. Hmmm. Curious about what it says now. Might be corrosion. I think this is the first time I've seen a slabbed coin offered without showing what the label grade and description are. Seems kind of shady in a clumsy way. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Edited by numismatic student 12/02/2017 1:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 3:58 pm No background in grading these, but the cleaning seems apparent. Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8517 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 8:50 pm There are certain slabs that ebay doesn't accept and that may be why he hid it. Still a nice coin. Not sure of prices on these, especially a details one. Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHuntingDrew Pillar of the Community United States 4932 Posts	Posted 12/03/2017 3:44 pm Cleaned for sure. No idea on grade. Somewhere in the F range. Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18680 Posts	Posted 12/03/2017 4:18 pm F15 details. might make VF20. corrosion on reverse Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11896 Posts	Posted 12/07/2017 1:46 pm it is what it is. looks bright orange in hand. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Report this Post to the Staff
bandsdean Pillar of the Community United States 2125 Posts	Posted 12/07/2017 2:38 pm Well, the side with the eye looks decent. Report this Post to the Staff
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