A Very Strange Japan Gold/Silver Coin From 1837?

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pirgah Valued Member Brazil 115 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 3:55 pm Could someone help me to determine which gold/silver japan coin is that? It´s said that it´s a 1837 japan gold/silver coin 1 BU...but I didn´t find anything related. Would like to know written references if existing too. Also is it possible to determine if it was cleaned or damaged in any way? It´s visible that it has some cracks and spots but I don´t know if this affect the overall appeal. * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

owatchman Pillar of the Community United States 1494 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 4:39 pm Here's a link to the Numista page for the coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27003.html Report this Post to the Staff
pirgah Valued Member Brazil 115 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 5:12 pm Thanks owatchman, but if you look closely it´s not the same coin I showed in the photos. The gold coin at my photos was "considered" an 1837 Japan gold/silver coin, but the images are not the same as those presented in numista. Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 6:10 pm @pirgah I can't help much but, your images are upside down. Yours doesn't look to have the Ansei era character but, something else (I can't tell). It also appears to have chop marks. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Edited by spru 12/02/2017 6:11 pm Report this Post to the Staff
pirgah Valued Member Brazil 115 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 6:17 pm Yes, maybe you´re right. But I tried to invert the images and compare with other japan coins like 2 BU, but it didn´t match. I´m trying to find some person that collects only japanese coins. Thank you anyway. It´ll be a very difficult task. Report this Post to the Staff
Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 12/02/2017 9:28 pm Hartill's Early Japanese Coins is just about the only authoritative reference on Tokugawa coins that isn't written in Japanese. It's still in print and widely available for about $20. I'll have to do a more thorough flip-through, but I couldn't find anything quite like yours in there. The obverse (upside down) has the character "bun" which would put it at late 1700s or very early 1800s (Gembun era), which would also be over 50% gold. Your coin is visibly debased, which did not happen until the 1830s. The design is also off-center and the features are very indistinct. I am fairly certain this is not an official coin, although whether contemporary or modern forgery I can't tell. Report this Post to the Staff
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