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1907 20 Dollar St. Gaudens Dollar Fake Or Not?

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Hello!

Anybody can help me? This coin is original or fake?

Weight is perfect, rim is perfect.

Peter


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Do you have a picture of the reverse?
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One more request. Photo of the edge?
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Potentially a $30,000 coin. Nothing screams fake to me but in this price range very high quality counterfeits exist that can't be authenticated from the best images.

It looks like a 1907 High Relief Flat Edge that can sell for $30,000+ USD in MS64.
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What's the story behind it?
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I bought it in hungary with other gold coins (french, hungarian, bullion coins) We are don't understand USA coins there. All year same price, this is my first Roman letters 20 dollars, and I checked internet, and I see its rare. But the color is different like arabic numbers dated coins...
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It is always easier to sell high quality fakes into markets that have the least ability to identify them as fakes.

I feel forced to agree with the comments of BH1964.
I must admit: I can't pick this one here from pictures alone.

This item may well be made from 90% copper / gold alloy, to be exactly the same as a genuine American gold coin. The source for such alloy is from genuine common low grade melted down American gold coins.

Need a company with sufficient professional experience and talent, such as Heritage Auctions, to offer a professional opinion. If in their opinion it is genuine, it would be a good idea to then have it slabbed. Keep all of the documentation from this process, to establish provenance.

You should then be able to sell it into any market in the World.
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Might be an Omega counterfeit. The makers mark would be inside the claw on the reverse. I see something in that area but cannot make out exactly what it is.

Even if it is an Omega counterfeit, it's still worth more than bullion value.
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I would agree with that also. If it is, you have a dangerous, deceiving and tempting possession.

If it is a fake, and you successfully sell it, and are later proven to have sold it under a deception, you could be in trouble with the Law.
The legal costs could be excessive.

Much better to have it professionally authenticated, before deciding what to do with it.

Perhaps it could be sold as a proven fake; it may be well worth more than just the gold value.

Much cheaper that way.

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I hadn't heard of the "Omega Man". Very interesting!

Here are a couple articles I found concerning the counterfeits:

http://mysteriouswritings.com/who-w...s-omega-man/

Some good pics here:

http://www.anacs.com/(A(SI4wiutNzwE...e.aspx?ID=20
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I checked again with 20x mag. I don't find any signatures of omega and nothing. I tryied to make photo, please look.
What do you think guys?



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Interesting example for sure. I do not have the expertise to offer an informed opinion on authenticity .... fully concur with the others that this example requires professional in-hand viewing.

If you do so, please let us know the verdict.
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Looks like there is something that appears inside the claw that may, or may not, be an Omega symbol. Regardless, authentication by TPG is a must as it will have to be slabbed to be marketable on the outside chance it is real.

Even if it's not genuine it is worth more than melt and is a nice score to make. This is probably the most sought after counterfeit gold coin and is on a lot of want lists.

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