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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hi everyone! I have a newbie-like question, although I am not new. I "stepped away" from the hobby for about 7 years (life happens, lol), but I'm back now... I am glad CCF is still as strong as ever! My main love is Mercury dimes. While my set is still far from complete, I am working now to obtain the best coins I can afford with the dates not yet in my album. I have been a very long time student of Mercury dimes, but even after 20+ years, I far from an expert. Which leads me to my question... if a Mercury dime is slabed as MS-66, is it safe to assume it has FSBs, even if not labelled as such? If not, it just seems crazy to me that a coin labelled in such a high grade still could not have FSBs. Thanks in advance! It feels good to be back in the CCF! |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is possible to have a high MS Dime that does NOT have FSB.
FSB is an indication of the quality of the strike, and is not necessarily related to the condition.
So, it is possible to see FSB on an AU58 Dime, and yet find an MS66 Dime struck from worn dies, that shows no evidence of FSB.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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 We are speaking of two entirely separate factors. FSB is solely dependent on the strength of the strike when minted. The numeric grade tries to enumerate the amount of wear the coin has seen, be it circulation or a Mint bag. So, they are independent features until you get to circulated grades where normal wear may flatten the bands and remove any FSB designation. The same applies to FBL on Franklins and FS on Jeffersons. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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12/27/2017 03:51 am
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Moderator
 United States
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I agree it needs to have a strong strike but it also needs to be un dinged,hope that makes sense. What I mean is,it can start out as FSB but if it takes a hit in that area well then... John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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ok then, what is the difference between an M-66 and a proof? I know the dies are polished for the proofs... so will proofs be full split band?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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ok then, what is the difference between an M-66 and a proof? I know the dies are polished for the proofs... so will proofs be full split band? Sort of same replies as above. You could find Proofs that just don't have full bands. Even that so called 2016 Gold Commemorative one the Mint made did not have Full Bands. Great example is the famous 1945 Dime. Possibly you could find one graded as MS-67 and it will still have that middle band a blob. I suspect the Mint does this purposely just to irritate collectors. I'm trying to make a completed set of Mercury dimes with FSB. Only need the 18S to complete. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree with all these general comments. FSB has nothing to do with grade or method of production.
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Moderator
United States
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ok then, what is the difference between an M-66 and a proof? Proof describes the minting process, where the coin is not meant for circulation. I think that if the proof die has FSB, then every coin it strikes should have FSB proof dies are not used for as long as business strike dies. For a business (circulation) strike, if the die has FSB, it will only have it earlier in its life. The dies are used for much longer, so the FSB will probably wear over time. A high grade coin struck later in the die life would be missing the FSB. |
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Valued Member
United States
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There are a lot of high grade dimes that do not have full split bands.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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as mentioned 45p is the hardest to find with fsb.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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as mentioned 45p is the hardest to find with fsb. Supposedly although one of the highest minted Mercury dimes, only about 2% have FSB. |
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Posted 12/27/2017 03:48 am
