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Is This A 1983 Lincoln Doubled Die Error? I Know It Isn't The Major Variety

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This 1983 penny is confusing me. The tops of the letters look to have really odd, unique lines, yet because the letters are all the proper size and so distinctly "one," I feel it isn't doubled. Also, on the PCGS site, their scan of a normal 1983 penny has an "N" with the exact same surface appearance. It could be that certain strikings have letters with that design on the top when the coin isn't worn much. They look perfectly symmetrical. This one is surely confusing! HELP :)

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The devices look normal in size, but the tops may have been flattened/had contact leaving the lines you are seeing on the devices.
Here is a side by side of the ONE CENT with normal-DDR-002-DDR-001.
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It doesn't look like 001 or 002.
I would like to see more images of this coin. How about the whole reverse side, then close ups of different areas?
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Thank you for the welcome! I appreciate both of your responses. Someone on a Facebook coin page said that this might be 003 in its late stages. What do you all think? I'll go ahead and post more pictures here. I suppose that what ever it is, there's not much value to be had, eh?


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Because the devices are reduced in size it indicates MD, but to get the center impression must be a high bounce MD, where the dies reverberating bounces came down in the center on one of them.
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This would mean I don't have a variety, correct?

Also, I have a good amount of 1983 pennies with the die crack going from the rim to Memorial. Are these all varieties, or are there rim to Memorial die cracks on non-variety cents?
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Yes, you are correct. Die Cracks are not varieties. They are errors. But, Die Cracks can be used for die markers for Doubled Dies. In this case, you have MD ( Machine Doubling).
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Sometimes the light can play tricks on our eyes. Seeing pictures is not the same as seeing a coin in hand. I can't really tell what it is from the images, they are decent images, I just can't see 3-D on my monitor. It is a very polished die, The only markers I can see for the DDR-003 are the two die cracks. The rest of the details have been abraded away by polishing. The direction of the doubling on all of the devices tells me that it is not a doubled die. If it were a doubled die, the doubling would be in the same direction on all affected devices. It is possible to have a combination of MD and a DD, but I don't think this is.
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You all are so helpful. I will surely remember this site if I have more questions. Thank you so much! :)
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We are here to help and we want you to learn! Keep looking and keep asking questions.
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The Wexler 1983 1c WDDR-003, is the same die number as the CONECA DDR-002 (also Coppercoins 1983P-1DO-002).
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Thank you!
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