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1837 Capped Bust Half

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 Posted 05/21/2008  8:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys. I just wanted some opinions on this bust half. I haven't puchased it, but am considering it if the price stays low. As you know, I am drawn to toned coins, which this one is really strong on. Plus I need a reeded edge for my minimum VF type set. SO questions.
What would this one grade?
Does it look in any way "doctored" or "damaged"?

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 Posted 05/21/2008  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the wear looks very uneven on the reverse, the shield looks AU+ quality even, if there's any 'doctoring' it's that they 'etched' it to look newer around there. but other than that I can't tell, nice coin though
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 Posted 05/21/2008  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
good point sc. I didn't notice that. The thing I'm a little concerned about is the contrast of the devices to the fields around the edge. It's very extreme, as the devices look almost "pasty white", where as the edges get very dark. I know there is a contrast in natural toning, but in this case it almost looks like the central area of the coin was cleaned with something.
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 Posted 05/21/2008  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It actually doesn't look too unnatural, does it look less contrasting in real life?
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 Posted 05/21/2008  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have the coin in hand. I could be way out in left field, but it just looks a bit funny to me. With all the cleaned/doctored stuff going around, I've become quite a critic. :-P
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 Posted 05/21/2008  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is just something about this coin I do not care for, and I can't quite put my finger on it. The central area is still white because the coin most likely suffered an old time cleaning and is starting to retone.
There are nicer pieces out there........have you tried jjteaparty?
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 Posted 05/22/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
who is jjteaparty? is he an online dealer? anyways, what grade would you give the above coin? I'm gonna guess VF-25.
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 Posted 05/22/2008  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Johnny, jjteaparty is an online dealer that at least several dealers I know of make purchases from. http://www.jjteaparty.com/
Have fun!
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 Posted 05/22/2008  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like jjteaparty as well but my only complaint is that they moved away from alot of raw coins to alot of slabbed(mainly PCGS) coins which seems to have caused a bit of a price bump. However, the quality is definitely high and they are easy to deal with.
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 Posted 05/24/2008  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pocket piece!
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 Posted 05/24/2008  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinGeek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would buy it if the price is right. Especially if you prefer toned pieces. I too am building such a type set. I prefer to see the coins I buy in person and get most at shows and 1837s dont show up that often in the VF area. I'd call this a VF from what I can tell from the pic. Fair jump in price to XF then AU.
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 Posted 05/24/2008  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The light old cleaning and the rim ding on the obverse probably bodybagged this one, but if the price was right, I'd buy it.
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 Posted 05/26/2008  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah. the more I look at it, the more I like it. That strong contrast has appeal....and I am emphasizing toned coins in my typeset...So I think it will fit in fine.
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 Posted 05/27/2008  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok. update. I received the coin today, and was very pleased with this one! I;ve been examining it closely for the last 15 min. The details on the coin are much stronger in real life than in the picture. It has a full clasp and strong details throughout(much of which aren't noticable in the pic). I don't think it would make XF, but I'd say VF-35. Also there is no rim ding on the obverse. There aren't any of the typical "hairlines" that cleaned coins have, but I do believe that this one was overdipped at one time and has retoned. The devices are very light(too white IMO to be fully natural)and there is absolutely no cartwheel luster. However, I expected this upon purchasing, and I do believe I got more than my money's worth. Oh, and the toning is GORGEOUS!! She fits beautifully in my Dansco 70/70!

PS: sorry I get so excited. It's just nice to find winners after a series of losers. :-P
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 Posted 05/27/2008  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't particularly care for the toning on that piece. The toning pattern makes me think that it was probably cleaned some time ago and placed in an album to retone. Also, I find the pockmarks on the reverse near the eagle kind of annoying. However, pictures can be deceiving and if you like the coin that's all that matters.
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 Posted 05/28/2008  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Master Gardener to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy things like that- I like it.
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