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Strange Great Britain Coin From 1937

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 Posted 01/28/2018  4:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pakalbekim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey, I have got his on flea market, I can find a lot of Great Britain coins from 1937 matching one side, but not the other. Can someone help to identify it?
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 Posted 01/28/2018  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like a fantasy crown-sized forgery. I see that it is silver-colored, but these are rarely actually made from silver.
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Your first picture shows the reverse of this coin, I believe:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3658.html

The other is obviously a 1937 crown reverse. Maybe two coins put together? Or, possibly completely fake. Does it stick to a magnet?
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Most probably two different half coins joined together.
A picture of the edge would be very diagnostic.

Now, a non coin fantasy.
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Looks more like a produced fantasy, rather than a Magicians coin.
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The Latin "in hoc signo vinces" translates as "in this sign you will conquer". Emperor Constantine claimed to have seen this phrase in a dream with a cross. Since then, many and varied organisations have used the motto - too many to ID this from the motto alone.

Does anyone recognise the style of crown? Or the globe in a shield?
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Since then, many and varied organisations have used the motto


Including Masons. However, the first pic shows the exact reverse of a Brazilian 2000 reis coin and it happens to be a close diameter match to a 1937 G.B. crown. My best guess is a " Magician's coin" type pairing of two coins. The meaning/reason is lost to me.


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Does anyone recognise the style of crown? Or the globe in a shield?


See the above comment and my posted link. The crown is appropriate for the year, although worn. I am not an expert with either of the coins.

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I found it while these comments were made.

Thanks to pakalbekim for an interesting challenge.
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Definitely a Chinese fake from the early 2000's. I bought 72 back then and several had the wrong sides together - one had a German 1903 5 marks with a Panama 1904 (50 centissimos ?). I also have one that is a 1937 crown like yours but it has the correct obverse. Check the weight - mine is about 18.5 grams. Range is 17.5 to 19.8 grams on my others (even the ones that say 1 oz. pure silver).

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Wow guys, you all are amazing! Thank you so much for all comments, it is become clear that it's a fake, I bought it together with a few (legit) coins, but there are several similar style coins which will probably gonna be fake as well. What would be the bets method to diagnose which is fake, which is not?
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