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Thoughts On This 1810 Large Cent

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Are the pics the issue or does there appear to be some environmental damage? These are not my pics.

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Kind of hard to tell with those pics. However, knowing the series and the date it is more likely than not to have some form of porosity. If corrosion avoidance is important to you then I'd want to see the coin in hand or have very clear pics for Classic Head Large Cents.
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Sure looks like some ED to me!
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Really impossible to tell from those photos.
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I can't tell from the pics.

Classic Head Large Cents are difficult to find in very good condition, because the copper used in their production was softer. If you are looking for an example that is absolutely original, I recommend you look at the coin in hand. If you are just looking for an affordable example with good eye appeal, it may be easier to find an example.
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It's very difficult to find a cent in the 1808-14 years that isn't a details grade. I agree - difficult to see in the pics but it looks like a details coin to me. Experts may correct me but I think the problem was that the copper being shipped here was of inferior grade and was sitting in water at the bottom of ships coming here.
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I just had another thought about this coin. The details look better than G6 from what I can see. So, is this the net grade determined after the corrosion?
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This is a Fine coin that has been market-graded down to Good 6 by PCGS due to the extremely poor obverse eye appeal.

It's not much different than how we net-grade in EAC, but done by a TPG instead of using a "details" designation. They could have called it "Fine Details" and got the same result.
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That looks like it's likely a scan to me. If it is a scan it is likely embellishing how bad it looks, but in general paralyse is right that something is almost certainly there that netted it down.
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'paralyse' nailed it with his opinion above. Ditto.
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Has it ever been PCGS policy to "net grade"?
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Thank you all for your input. It was helpful. Paralyse - thank you for the explanation, though it is frustrating, to a novice such as myself, when they do things like this.
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Quote:
Has it ever been PCGS policy to "net grade"?

Official policy? No I don't think so, but do they do it sometimes? Yes.
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