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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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The pictures aren't sharply focused, but there might be a trace of wear on the wreath. The unnatural color and lack of luster suggest a past cleaning or dipping. But it's free of marks and I'm not certain of the wear, so I'll say Unc details.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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All details a little 'mushy'.
Nice red color, but no luster.
Check for comparative ping test, exact weight, and exact diameter, to find out for sure.
I am thinking pressure cast fake, I hope I am wrong.
The temptation to reproduce a $250 coin is pretty high.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pics are not sharply focused enough to determine wear.
EDIT: It's difficult to grade from these pictures. Better pictures would help.
Edited by SilverDollar2017
02/12/2018 11:00 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sharper pics, please. Is the color accurate here, ns?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks like a nice coin to me. I have an 1849 in a problem free holder that displays a similar color. Perhaps it is a characteristic for the year? I can't judge wear based on the pics but would think AU-58 at least with a possibility of MS after seeing it in hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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This is all I have at the moment. Will post better pics when in hand. Thanks!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Seller appears to be an intermediate U.S. copper coin collector who knows Bob Grellman. Not too worried about authenticity although anything is possible until I see the coin in hand.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I doubt that it's fake. But better pics would definitely help for grading.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have recently seen some really deceiving proven fakes of rare Australian bronze coins, in the same sort of condition, with the same sort of appearance.
Sure enough to raise serious doubts in my mind, but not completely sure. THAT is when you have a dangerous fake.
Edited by sel_69l
02/12/2018 5:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see nothing from the image that tells me it's fake. But I would definitely like to see sharper pictures once in hand. Quote:
All details a little 'mushy'. I recommend you look at images of Braided Hair Large Cents and compare them to this coin. Edited by SilverDollar2017
02/12/2018 5:49 pm
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United States
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Hard to tell from pic, but looks MS
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11898 Posts |
If anyone has a reference book, would you be able to help me attribute this? Thanks!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yeah, hoping that someone has the Grellman/Reiver attribution reference book. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
02/13/2018 3:24 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This one came today. Thoughts? Thx.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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