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Seems to me they are undergrading alot of coins. All the new coins I have seen on here and coins I just got graded-it seems Anacs has been very stingent on the grades. Anyone else?
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$$$$$$$......name, name, name.....rresale, resale, resale....  Old adage(used to be at least...): You get what you pay for...unfortunately. Edited by Crazyb0
02/13/2018 3:09 pm
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I've seen thousands of ANACS and bought and sold a few hundred. With the possible exception of their old small white capsules, they are usually a half grade to two grades above PCGS and NGC.
That said, you might RARELY find one under graded, but not often.
It is more likely that you have what I call Mine Mind.
Mine Mind means that every coin you own suddenly seems that it is better than it really is.
When folks complain about to strict of submission results, it is more frequently Mine Mind.
Show us photos to prove your theory, otherwise.
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Rest in Peace
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There used to be many complaints about coins over-graded by ANACS. It seems they may have adjusted back to pre-gradeflation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Photos of the "undergraded" coins, please. ANACS is usually accurate or overgraded. Rarely undergraded.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 For sure. |
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 United States
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I heard they used to overgrade or be accurate but I think they went the other way.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pictures of the undergraded coin/s, please. Otherwise, I don't know what you are referring to.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Basebal21 will likely see this and I will defer to him. I'm impressed with his knowledge of the TPGs.
With that said, I'd like to think that I know what I'm doing a little bit and I bought my first ANACS graded coin in years just recently. It was a freshly graded 20¢. I had no complaints with the grade they gave it.
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Seems to me they are undergrading alot of coins. All the new coins I have seen on here and coins I just got graded-it seems Anacs has been very stingent on the grades. Pick a couple of your ANACS coins, crack them out and ship them to NGC or PCGS. That will perhaps change your opinion. Maybe your grading would change. Unfortunately it would be an expensive experiment. |
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I agree that recently ANACS is conservative in their grades. IOW, don't ecpect them to do you any favors with the grades, when you use their grading specials. That being said, I don't think they undergrade coins, just more accurately.
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.....on any given day..any of the TPG's WILL over, under, completely miss, and get it right. I have specifically purchased coins in ALL TPG holders, because they were undergraded. Some, I cracked and submitted to the same or different TPG. Most recent - 1909 S Lincoln graded AU58. Graded MS64. The "grading" or "crackout" game is alive and well, some dealers and collectors have sent the same coin multiple times, to the same TPG in the attempt to get the "correct" grade. |
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United States
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ANACS has been fairly consistent with the other TPG services over the last couple of years at least in my opinion. I'll consider a coin I want in an ANACS holder if the price is right. I've cracked out a few ANACS coins and submitted to NGC in order to match my sets with the brown NGC labels. The only practical experience I have in a substantial difference is in sending a rather rare Standing Liberty quarter from an ANACS holder to NGC. ANACS straight graded it AU-58 originally and NGC graded it UNC Details - Cleaned. |
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I kept meaning to respond to this and never clicked submit for some reason.
Cliff Notes version, as mentioned they aren't systematically undergrading coins. Even relatively speaking PCGS is the one that went crazy tight during this time and NGC tightened up some as well so they really weren't doing it by comparison either.
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United States
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The thing to always remember is that grading is still a very "subjective" exercise performed by humans.. at least for now!
Yes, there are guidelines that are followed, but there are things such as the "luster" and "eye appeal" and "strike" of the coin that are often very difficult to clearly define. You can get pretty consistent over times, but you still have human eyes, and human judgement, and sometimes human fatigue that can set in. And I am sure that some graders value different "aspects" of the coin a bit differently, and even the graders themselves "learn and grow" over time as they look at thousands and thousands of coins.
And grading standards have changed over the years, and different firms do have their own "variations" of some of the standards. For example, the grading standard for "Full Bell Lines" for a Franklin are different between PCGS (just bottom set of lines) and NGC (both set of lines). Is one "right" or one "wrong" ? Hard to say, although I think it would be "nice" if they could standardize on the definitions.
Just some respectful food for thought..
Michael
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My opinion is that ANACS tightened up their standards a few years back.
Could be that they went to technical grading and away from market grading.
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