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1855 Half (1/2) Penny

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 Posted 02/16/2018  04:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Director to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Recently bought my first GB coin in PCGS MS65 holder. Couldn't resist the beautiful toning.

Can anyone help me understand if the first 5 in date (1855) is a double die error or re-engraved or something else? Possibly an over-date?

Not sure if this has been documented or is something rather common with this series.

Here is another example from PCGS website: https://www.PCGS.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=201354

Any help will be highly appreciated.



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 Posted 02/16/2018  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice patina and luster together, a rare combination.

I think re engraved first '5' in date.
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02/16/2018 06:02 am
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 Posted 02/16/2018  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pwa 1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a double struck 5.
Can I ask why you have taken it out of the plastic please ?.
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 Posted 02/16/2018  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin. Superb, would be pleased to have a coin like this in my collection.

I don't call this double struck, that would require the entire coin being double struck, not just one digit. It's a die cutting error.

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The No 5 is ,the digits were struck onto the die from a single punch.
Very few coins will be double struck from a bounce in the die and the numbers not just punched over.
So the die maker can strike a single digit twice as can be seen with numerous date variations.
The dies were in constant use and valuable so if a strike with a punch was not clean enough it would be struck again.
Some parts / letters letters may be recut as they start to wear or become damaged but on the 5 of the particular coin pictured the other five although partly hidden is definately there.

Only my opinion and happy to be wrong it does not take anything away from a nice coin.
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 Posted 02/16/2018  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pwa 1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To explain a bit better the die was double sruck not the blank.
Sorry I dont know how to edit the above post.
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Beautiful coin, I certainly agree.



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 Posted 02/16/2018  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's it exactly pwa! I love those errors, I have a few, show up a lot on early UK coinage. It's part of the fun of the series.
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 Posted 02/16/2018  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pwa 1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its just like the error made on the 1831 penny die on the other thread EF.
IMO its not a flaw on the die but a one that has then been resruck again with a six......although I will let you make your own decision.
Its definately not a flaw on the blank as I have and have seen a few.
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 Posted 02/16/2018  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pwa 1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry typing and looking after my grandaughter at the same time 1826 LOL.
This also shows on different varities ,were the reverse has been changed.
So not just on the standard shield variety.
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 Posted 02/17/2018  06:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Director to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No pwa 1967. The pictures are from before the coin was sent to grading. She is comfortably residing in a PCGS MS65 holder! Has asked me to give you her regards.
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 Posted 02/17/2018  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Director to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the help and appreciation.

Does anyone know how common this is?
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 Posted 02/17/2018  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pwa 1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1855 is one of the more common years although like most of the coppers harder to find in high grade ,the thistle is really well struck and a nice coin.

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 Posted 02/17/2018  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Detached Shamrock. Like it.
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 Posted 02/19/2018  05:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Director to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Peter1234, what is a detached shamrock?
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