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1877-S Trade Dollar With Dark Toning

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 Posted 02/25/2018  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What's damaged about this coin? Is it the small pitting on obverse you talking about?
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 Posted 02/25/2018  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add roach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like it might be a RPD FS 301 in cherry pickers, so that should add some value to it.
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 Posted 02/25/2018  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I hadn't noticed, but the second 7 in the date does look repunched.

1877-S-Trade-Dollar-With-Dark-Toning
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Edited by numismatic student
02/25/2018 5:47 pm
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 Posted 02/25/2018  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF-45, not fond of it.
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1877-S RPD FS-301 PCGS #145812 : This re-punched date is fairly tough to find in any grade.
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/145812
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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 Posted 02/25/2018  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently Ray Lathrop discovered this variety in 1996 and published an article about it in 1997 in the Gobrecht Journal #70 (pgs.34-35). Interesting because Trade dollars were designed by William Barber, not Christian Gobrecht of Seated Liberty coinage fame. The Eric P. Newman Foundation arranged to have most issues of the Gobrecht Journal scanned and uploaded to the Stanford University Library and they can be downloaded for free. I downloaded them and below is Mr. Lathrop's article about his discovery of the 1877-S Trade dollar RPD FS-301 with pictures of his example and the diagnostics of the variety (which appear to match mine). Let me know if you agree/disagree.

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1877-S-Trade-Dollar-With-Dark-Toning

Let me know if you agree/disagree that these diadnostics conform with the ones on my coin. Thanks!

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1877-S-Trade-Dollar-With-Dark-Toning
1877-S-Trade-Dollar-With-Dark-Toning
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student
02/25/2018 6:45 pm
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 Posted 02/25/2018  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree it is the re-punched 7 FS-301. Nice Find. Are you going to submit to TPG for grade and variety?
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 Posted 02/25/2018  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good catch.
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 Posted 02/25/2018  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure that this is a situation where I need TPG authentication of the variety. Seems pretty clear to me.

I wish I could take credit for catching this but even with the coin in hand, I didn't realize that this was an RPD until fellow CCF'er roach pointed it out.

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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