Improperly Mixed Alloy Lincolns Found In Roll, 1981 Lincolns

Simply poorly stored MS coins with ED issues, that's it.

Thank you Frog, you're right, the roll was stored in an old wooden box with a boatload of other coins. There were two other MS rolls with it, in a small cloth bag, pulled closed with a string pull. A 59d, 80, and the 81's, The wood box was a 14 x 14 wine box, about 6 inches deep. Nothing sealed, scores of loose Lincolns, including some decent grade wheaties and a few indian heads. That's the extent of the environmental exposure. The 80's and the 59's did not look anything like the 81's. I sent better pics to john1, including shots of the entire roll, obverse and reverse. They are all similar looking. That shot will confirm that they were OMR, uncirculated coins, so, someone as established as john1, and spence felt they were "stained by circulation". I know they have far more experience and expertice than I do, and I could have went with "time to move on", thanking them for the info. But, knowing the history of the roll, I'm thinkin', "How do two established, involved collectors deem obvious uncirculated coins as circulated?" Enough to get "stained" , yet, have no other signs typical of a 37 year old coin...If those pennies experienced environmental damage sitting in a box as such, man, that's news in it's own right. The planchets are are literally marbled through out, the surface shows as black splotching, but a cleaning and buffing shows blue, and other colors you'd get combining copper red, zinc blue, and purple. In different hues, depending on what mixed, and what didn't. All I can say is, I've looked at a lot of Lincolns, including others in the old box..Not one looks like the 81s
I don't mean to be stubborn about this, and, with a friendly nature, I simply offered my 81s to what looked like a nice, active forum. Googled it, in fact. I'd now assume you guys get a lot of posts, and it's time consuming. There are likely some doosies and even frauds, pretenders. So, I understand quick assessments, on to the next post mentality, and that's fine. Respect all..
I offered a sample to John1, got wordy, just like this Frog, with due respect at all times. I sent improved pics, (still trying to figure how to post). I'll take them to a reputable assessor. I've given three away..All agree, it's incomplete mix of copper and zinc. Tell you what, get John 1 to show you and post the new pics. I'd be willing to ship them to you for inspection. Now, who would go that far, if they didn't have something to see? Anyone live near Newark, DE? Take a look!
Sometimes, pictures do not tell the story. I figure you guys wouldn't want to miss one because the pics weren't convincing, whatever. ..,Either way, thanks just the same..Heck of a site, tons of cool stuff

No, they wont. There were billions of these coins struck, they'll never be worth more than face value.

Thank you, justcarl, jbuck..Not looking for value, necessarily. However, it would be cool to find another variety of the Lincoln, in it's last full year of production. Used to be just the 55 dd, 72 dd, and a few others, back in 81. Since then, Much more have been discovered to keep the collectors interesred. I didn't get too much time, back then. Now, retired, I'm finally getting to look closer, We're talking pound and pounds, and I'm starting to see that Dad knew some key dates, a lot of 60, 70s, as well as s mint wheaties and memorials, into 1982, no Zincolns, he gave me the coins in 82, so...Suits me, man, there's a ton to organize. The only ones separated are about 75 1943 steelies, ironically, in a bag.
I'm going to a verified assessor, as to the 81s..Any ccf member near Newark DE with some creds is welcome to check them out. I've offered to have jbuck access, after all, he's got 53 thou posts, and does a tough job, moderating is not easy. Hey, with a smile, he educated nfine a little, and thank you, just carl, for the advice. If they are, in fact, an alloy doohickie, I'll send you one. They're not photogenic, but they are uncirculated...
Nice blue, red, and purple tones, under the black oxide, ,I'll get back to you after testing. Thanks for your time..

Not an alloy issue, I was hoping to see a bunch with woodgraining like this:

Oh yeah, B.T., you're right, that's a beaut of a "woodie", and one of the looks that pioneered support for the existence of alloy issues. In spite of many naysayers, some of which had a lot of knowledge about coinage, alloy errors were finally acknowledged. Some still insist that it's "roller lines", but I'd disagree, maybe a few as such, but I say, alloy mix error. Your coin is a prime example, the lines continue, in fact, rise along with the relief,, easily seen on the letters and digits. That means it was struck on a planchet that had those llines to begin with. The batch of copper and zinc, in effect, wasn't ""swirlled" enough. As the two metals age, with toning and oxidation, you get a multi colored result like yours. I'd contend, in fact, that the greyish lines is zinc oxidation, the reds and browns, copper tones. There is some very red color behind Lincoln's ear. Gotta be copper that did't get much zinc. Grey/blue on cheek? Zinc that didn't mix in much copper, basically. Actually, your coin dazzles with red, blue, and mixed red blue, or, purple. Nice copper brown tones too, different shades
ironically, a 81 Lincoln, not surprized here. Actually, and some well established ccf members will affirm, most bad alloy mixes are not woodie looking, They are more blotchy. You can't rule out an alloy mix error because it's not woody looking. Its my opinion that my coins are a result of even less blending, leaving almost unmixed zinc to oxidize. That, in our opinion is why the blackish reaction to my uncirculated coins is so uniform, it's zinc oxide. Underneath, there is zinc blue, and it is part of the planchet, it also lifts with digits and numbers, just like yours There are similar greys in our coins. Blue zinc, with a light oxide coating, looks grey. The dark skuz on my coins, upon closer inspection and better pics and lighting, shows oxide dull grey over blue...
A woodie is a great alloy mix error coin, giving a wood grain look. In fact, your's is the exception, not the rule..most won't grain out across the entire field like yours, and on the up side, most woodies are early wheats, memorial coppers are rare. I don't include Zincolns, they're not an alloy.
Comments offered with all due respect. Stoked to see that 81, nice!

Thank you, too, jbuck