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1955-S LWC Variety From B/U Roll

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I found this 1955-S in a roll of less than stellar examples. They are quite nice if you ignore that they have mostly been touched years ago and have varying stages of purple and spots on them. But I do assure that the coin pictured looks much, much better in hand than in macro photos.

1955-S variety coin with two attributable characteristics:


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1955-S-LWC-Variety-From-B/U-Roll
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1955-S-LWC-Variety-From-B/U-Roll
1955-S-LWC-Variety-From-B/U-Roll

So that's the coin. But what is the variety and all that? Well the first person who send me a PM with the correct answer wins the exact coin pictured and I will even cover the postage. Restrictions are that you have to have at least 250 posts on the CCF (to make the buy/sell/trade board requirements) and have not received free coins from me before (you know who you are).

To win the coin you must tell me the full attributes for two things on the coin, including die stage if applicable and please use VarietyVista for doubled die or RPM so I don't have to figure out what all the cross references might be if any. All die markers to do this correctly are visible in at least one of the many photos above. This is not a super easy coin to figure out so kudos to anyone who nails it and the coin itself to the first one to PM with the correct answers.

I will announce the winner in this thread, and as it is now late unless there is a winner quickly that will be left to tomorrow to figure out who got it first.
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 Posted 03/17/2018  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll give it a go:RPM-004 stage B
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Time for an update. As expected this one is not giving up its secrets easily, so...

John1 (and others) have correctly figured out the RPM-004 stage B. But since this is clearly not ddo-001, what is the other attributable characteristic? The famous mathematician Martin Gardner once wrote a book called "aha!" all about having the aha! moment when an answer that was not obvious at first comes into focus. That's all it takes and we will have a winner.
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 Posted 03/17/2018  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jay4202472000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PM sent. Sorry for posting here. I didn't read the instructions. Edited out.
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Good job Jay just was messaging him that answer
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I didn't read the instructions, so it's yours if you want it Mrzllewellyn. I posted the answer here when I should have PMed. Attention to detail is a key characteristic for variety collectors. I failed miserably. :-(
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 Posted 03/17/2018  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nah I messed up and forgot to put stage lol
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Actually Jay you failed not at all, as you are the WINNER! You were the first person to correctly identify in a PM that the coin is RPM-004 Stage B with Retained Cud RCD-1C-1955S-08R. I got a number of responses, and all go the RPM number correct but it varied from there.

The key here was to realize that when figuring out the stage B part of the RPM that the die marker was in fact a Retained Cud. Not easy as it doesn't really look like one. And, just to make it harder, the Cud is not cross referenced on VV nor is the RPM cross referenced on CoC so you had to work that out without such help.

Congrats to Jay and thanks to all for participating.
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Yeah there was a Cud that looked similar to it too but it had a BIE. I was searching all over lol it was fun thanks.
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 Posted 03/17/2018  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jay4202472000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was great fun. I would do these for nothing. It sharpens your skills. Even when I don't have spare cash, I still search ebay just to see if I can notice varieties and attribute them. Then watch them to see if they were discovered and what the selling price was for future reference. Sending PM now. Thanks again!
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I was guessing an RPM, and Progressive Indirect Design Transfer I think I see in second pic. I didn't catch top crack on Cud.
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Tunnioc, you bring up two of the things about this coin that weren't really red herrings but nor were they helpful in getting to the answer. The coin has decent progressive indirect design transfer, but that is not an attributable characteristic so merely a distraction. As for the Retained Cud, the upper contact point is not where most folks would look for one. It is, in reality, only about two mm above the lower contact point and unless under extreme magnification that just looks like one wide contact point and not two. You either had to already know this obscure Cud or take a chance and look up 1955-S Retained Cuds and see if this was listed, which it is.
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A good one to learn from, thanks
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Yeah I first looked up if progressive Indirect Design transfers are attributed lol then I moved on to the Cud
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 Posted 03/21/2018  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jay4202472000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got it today. It looks great in hand! Thanks again Keith! I didn't have that one.
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