1983-P Lincoln Cent Possible Doubled Die Reverse / DDR ? Edited

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piercethegrimes Valued Member United States 260 Posts	Posted 03/21/2018 9:15 pm Pulled this from a BU roll of 1983 cents. Not sure if this is wddr-003? Notching on the "int" in "United" and a decent spread on "one cent" thoughts? Edited by piercethegrimes 03/22/2018 09:39 am Report this Post to the Staff

antmark3d Valued Member United States 425 Posts	Posted 03/21/2018 10:17 pm Not a expert, but looks like die scratches... Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4402 Posts	Posted 03/21/2018 11:55 pm I'm not seeing any doubling. Just the scractches antmark mentions. Report this Post to the Staff
Coppergold Pillar of the Community United States 939 Posts	Posted 03/22/2018 12:21 am Yes that is ddr-002. Good find! Very nice condition Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4402 Posts	Posted 03/22/2018 09:01 am OP thought this was DDR-002 not WDDR-002. This is definitely not WDDR-002 either. Yeah the die cracks match, but the doubling doesn't. There's no separation or extra thickness on the T or the FG. Look for the doubling then the markers, those are pretty common places to see die cracks. Report this Post to the Staff
piercethegrimes Valued Member United States 260 Posts	Posted 03/22/2018 09:05 am Actually, I don't think it's ddr-002 listed by Wexler. I think it's listed as ddr-003. Any experts want to comment? Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4402 Posts	Posted 03/22/2018 09:58 am WDDR-003 is the same as DDR-002, so still a no from me. Report this Post to the Staff
Coppergold Pillar of the Community United States 939 Posts	Posted 03/22/2018 4:43 pm Looks more like 002 than 003. That's for sure. Even has the same markers and everything. Wait to see what coop says. Report this Post to the Staff
piercethegrimes Valued Member United States 260 Posts	Posted 03/22/2018 5:42 pm The markers are for verifying the doubles die but by themselves aren't indicative of a dd. The listed markers for 003 on Wexler match. Read the description and it says cracks at both corners of the memorial and remnants of a die clash in the 3rd bay. This coin has the clash remnants but I didn't photograph it Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/23/2018 3:22 pm Try this. Get a normal coin image from the PCGS coin facts site and make images that are the same width as your coin. Then put them side by side to see if the devices are enlarged or not. I'm not seeing it as enlarged, but will help you compare it side by side. I've always been able to do this in the past, but do not have the software any longer to do this on my new computer. (the new program won't let me adjust the rotations to match. But maybe someone else has software the can do that?) Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/29/2018 10:47 pm I was looking for images and see what I can find out on this one now that I have my old computer working again. (With Photoshop) Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/29/2018 10:51 pm Wexler lists a different one for WDDR-002. But WDDR-003 is the same as CONECA DDR-002 and Coppercoins 1983P-1DR-002. None of the die scratches are matching this die? The hub doubling is missing off the 'E' on UNITED. Die crack on the right base is in a different spot. No hub doubling on the EPU. Does look like the same die as die DDO-002 or Wexler WDDR-003. It maybe one to submit though as the ONE CENT looks doubled. It might be a new die? Now I spot two images of the same area that one is correct and one is not? So the question is: Edited by coop 07/30/2018 12:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74149 Posts	Posted 07/29/2018 11:35 pm Definitely a Doubled Die Reverse. Very nice find and congratulations! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Fin New Member United States 42 Posts	Posted 10/30/2018 9:25 pm This looks like one on the PCGS site. Report this Post to the Staff
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1983-P Lincoln Cent Possible DDR? Edited