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Starting To Collect Farthings

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 Posted 06/11/2008  03:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

I am a Canadian/US collector, but have recently taken an interest in British farthings. This was after recently finding a nice 1895 (young portrait) for 20 cents the other day! That's a great deal, right?

Here are some questions that I'd be grateful for your consideration:

1) Just curious - do farthings occasionally circulate in the UK for ~1p face? If not, where can a collector get newer ones?

2) What's the base-line value for a low-grade, recent farthing?

3) How tough is it to complete a ~1890-1956 farthing collection?

4) Are there blank Whitman-type folders for farthings?

5) Do newpennies fit in farthing folders? The diameters are only 300 microns apart. I want to put my newpennies in a folder of some kind. I realize newpennies are probably a silly thing to collect for you in the UK, but they're fun to come across here in Canada.

Thank you!
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 Posted 06/11/2008  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1) Farthings as far as I know never did circulate for 1p face value!
Where did this myth come from?

2) There are no recent farthings, the last one was produced in 1956

3) This tough <----------->

It all depends on how much cash you've got, the grades you need and your sources for the coins. Don't forget there are 7 obverse varieties and 6 reverse varieties for the farthings since 1860 alone...would you count these varieties as necessary?

4) I believe there are, somewhere...

5) Why are you using microns? The diameter of the modern pennies is 20.32 mm so I believe that should be (x 10 as microns are the same as micrometers i.e. millionths of a metre?) 203.2 of them.

The diameter of the farthings was 22mm from 1821 until 1860, where the diameter became 20mm and remained this size until the end of production in 1956.
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06/12/2008 01:21 am
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 Posted 06/11/2008  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day & good luck,
don't overlook the farthing of 1799: the first British coin to be denominated.
Peter
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Hi Numismatty.

1) The myth comes from the idea that they are similar in size. British newpennies occasionally show up in Canada as one cent pieces. I thought some farthings may be mixed in once in a while.

2) I realize that farthings stopped in 1956 (this should be clear from my post), but in my terminology anything 1900 onward is 'recent'.

3 & 4 - Thanks!

5) A micron is one thousandth of a metre - just thought I'd let you know. So 300 microns is .3 mm, and newpennies are 22.3 mm. I wonder why I get automatically misunderstood so often...
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Hi Numismatty.

1) The myth comes from the idea that they are similar in size. British newpennies occasionally show up in Canada as one cent pieces. I thought some farthings may be mixed in once in a while.

2) I realize that farthings stopped in 1956 (this should be clear from my post), but in my terminology anything 1900 onward is 'recent'.

3 & 4 - Thanks!

5) A micron is one thousandth of a millimetre - just thought I'd let you know. So 300 microns is .3 mm, and newpennies are 22.3 mm. I wonder why I get automatically misunderstood so often...
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 Posted 06/11/2008  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys - sorry for the double-post. I corrected metre to millimetre above.

I guess I answered my own question! :)
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Krause lists the 1895 young bust as $10 in Fine condition. 20 cents sounds like a bargain. Congrats!

If your looking to collect these coins in XF you can probably purchase most of the post-1895 coins for $10 or less. The coins with the wren will cost considerably less, even at UNC. The prices generally increase significantly with dates older than 1895.

As far as availability goes, farthings are rather abundant. there are currently 171 farthings up for bid on ebay. If you can't find what you want there, check out the UK ebay.
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 Posted 06/11/2008  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a minor correction:
1 micron = 1 * 10-6 meter ( 1 millionth)
1 millimeter = 1 * 10-3 meter ( 1 thousandth)

My chemistry background is showing - sorry
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 Posted 06/12/2008  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course.. I knew that ;P
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 Posted 06/14/2008  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hussulo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
" starting to collect farthings"
Then you'll probably find this site of interest:

http://www.aboutfarthings.co.uk/
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