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Fraud And Who Should Be Held Liable?

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 Posted 06/12/2008  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
italianruby,

You've been with us since Nov of 2007 and you didn't know SGS was not a reputable grading service? They are more than adequately covered in the TPG thread and elsewhere on the forum (just run a search on SGS to see all the dissatified customers). Unless the coins are counterfeits, you won't stand a chance in court challenging their "opinion" of grade. I can almost guarantee that your coins will not grade over MS63 by any of the reputable services. I've seen many SGS graded coins on ebay and used to laugh at the grades, now I just shake my head because innocent folks are being taken every day. You've heard some real good advice on this thread already ... buy the coin and not the slab. And I wish to formally welcome you to the "I've been taken on a coin deal club". We're all members and this forum exists to keep the membership from growing!
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 Posted 06/12/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an 1884 Morgan graded by SGS as MS68. This must have been minted in the years when Phili was using belt sanders to polish their coins.



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 Posted 06/12/2008  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TLS5933 made a funny!
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 Posted 06/12/2008  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add COINAHOLIC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TLS5933

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Phili was using belt sanders to polish their coins.


Please tell me this isn't one of yours?!?! Poor thing! Might SGS stand for "special" grading service? An Equal Opportunity institution that employs BLIND graders?
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 Posted 06/12/2008  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope,not one of mine. Never have bought a SGS "graded" (and I use that term loosely) coin. Nor will I ever,no matter how good of deal it is. I won't support the dealer that sells this over hyped,over graded junk. Even if you know your buying the coin at a EF price, your still supporting the seller and helping them stay in business.
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 Posted 06/12/2008  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good point, TLS5933 about supporting the seller. I did buy some SGS graded Modern Commemoratives, and like them just fine, but if they are in the habit of deceiving, then perhaps I shouldn't buy those anymore. But I know SGS grades aren't up to snuff with PCGS and NGC. We all know that. I do like their slabs, though, and I've seen some that are a lot shabbier, like World Coin Grading Service or some such. yeah, that Morgan is a piece of work, but the reverse doesn't look too bad. Perhaps I don't have good coin discriminting eyes yet. I'm so new to it.
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