Info On Indian Head Cent / IHC Die Rotation

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m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 11:23 am Where can I find specific info on IHC die rotation, which dates if any are known to have it, etc. Is there a single best book on IHCs? Report this Post to the Staff

biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 12:31 pm Rick Snow is pretty much THE authority on IHCs and he has a few books- one is a year by year study RedBook series book and the others are multi-volume attribution guides http://www.indiancent.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 2:00 pm Thanks for the info, I've heard of Snow and IHCs, I'll buy the books. Thanks again Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 2:25 pm I have most of the guides, and I seem to recall something written on rotation for specific years. His RedBook on IHCs is pretty basic--you won't find details there. What year is your IHC and how much is it rotated? Report this Post to the Staff
m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 4:11 pm It is an 1864 copper nickel, rotated clockwise I think. I orient the coin with the top obverse at 12 0'clock, flip it, the the top of the reverse is at 2 o'clock instead of 12. Does this make sense? Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 4:15 pm So the obverse is at 2:00 in relation to the reverse? That's about a 60 degree rotation, which is nice. I don't know values here as I don't see many for sale. Report this Post to the Staff
m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 4:34 pm I googled 1864 die rotation and found a brief chart listing many types of coins and rotation with a rarity rating. The 1864 is listed, that's all I have found so far. I got the coin ( cherry picked it ) not knowing much about it except for the rotation and overall great appearance. When I got it home the first thing I did was weigh it, 4.67 grams. Crap! I thought to myself. Then I looked at coinfacts, found the 1864 cu-ni, 4.67 grams, and felt a lot better. I'll get the Snow books one at a time. I can't say this enough, you guys and gals are great! Thanks for the help. So, die rotation is generally a good thing? Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 4:37 pm "So, die rotation is generally a good thing?" Definitely--it only adds to value and collector interest. 60 degrees is pretty significant. As a bit of an update, I see there's an 1864 proof IHC with a 20 deg. CCW rotation. It occurs in about 25% of proofs. Report this Post to the Staff
m9frank Pillar of the Community United States 628 Posts	Posted 06/13/2008 7:27 pm how do I identify a proof IHC? I does look like a great strike, I know you all like pics, I'm kinda reluctant to put time into a camera ( I work IT, the last thing I want to see when I get home is another IT project ) I'll give the camera thing an honest effort. Anyway, the coin looks excellent, MS 64 or higher if not for a very minor nick in the cheek. The color is kinda light, I've read this is normal for copper nickel. Report this Post to the Staff
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