1945-S 1c : What Is Going On With Finish?

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Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/07/2018 9:56 pm Recently going through a bunch of wheat pennies... most being brown copper. Not many with luster. Anyway... I came across this weird yellow gold penny. OBV design is barely there...While REV seems to be visible. Either way it has a weird luster. Could this be a Improper Alloy Error? I looked at side of rim and it seems to be copper but clad like with gold finish? I did read something about gold plated coins from this era, but I feel like the alloy mix here is bad or something else, other than just gold plated coin? Thoughts? Thanks in advance... I am a newbie! Report this Post to the Staff

Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 12:07 am Anyone? I would love to know what is going on with this penny? Help appreciated! Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDollar2017 Pillar of the Community United States 8715 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 12:10 am The color is a woody. That means that the alloy was not made properly. As for the obverse, I'm not seeing any obvious markers that tell me it's PMD. Possible a Grease Filled Die? Will wait for an expert to comment on this. Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 01:41 am So it is a Improper Alloy Error... or Improper Mix? It doesn't look worn really... alloy is not buffed off on any of the high points... Wish I could find out more! Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 04:28 am What does it weight? Kinda looks like acid damage as well as looking like a "woody" John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 05:47 am weighs 3.04 and has copper core for dure Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 09:31 am 95% copper 5% zinc. Not a copper core. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDollar2017 Pillar of the Community United States 8715 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 11:27 am Quote: So it is a Improper Alloy Error... or Improper Mix? Not really an error...you can find tons of these for sale on ebay. However, the lack of details on the obverse is interesting. The normal weight of a wheatie is 3.11 grams. It could be acid damage or circulation wear that's reducing the weight. I have to admit I'm confused on this one. Hopefully coop can explain what's going on with this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19935 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 12:26 pm It's an alloy issue AND it's been harshly cleaned - most evident on the reverse. I would toss this one into the junk pile personally. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 12:32 pm I'm not so sure of the "woodie" assessment, it appears to have been tampered with to look like, but the surface patina of brown has been chemically modified by a wiped cleaner. If this coin were to be "dipped", it would turn a solid color. Edited by Crazyb0 04/08/2018 12:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 4:20 pm I am adding a few more photos... Hopefully to help a bit. Just trying to make clear it does have a definite shine to it, despite the fact it looks grainy, especially on the front, that I just can't catch with a picture... "grain " texture just makes it look flat. (attach pic of OBV is me trying to catch the shine in an image - sorry for the blur on the image). Also why I said "clad" like... is because of the rim...seems to have different alloy or mix layer? And last another pic of the back... for a scratched as it looks, the design is not affected so much... Maybe it is a scrap penny, but I haven't seen something like it before. So it will go in my keeper pile anyways Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 5:10 pm I lean toward PMD rather than it being a woody, but it has ED as well - not an error in any way. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 5:22 pm Sorry... what does ED stand for? Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 6:46 pm Environmental damage. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Eyes4Error Pillar of the Community United States 710 Posts	Posted 04/08/2018 7:05 pm Thanks for clarifying John! Guess I am still wondering why the damage was not the same on both sides, if it was environmental? The front looks sandblasted and has a diagonal grain, while the back strike is fine and just seems to be scratched in the field of the coin (crosshatched)... Report this Post to the Staff
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