Identification Of 17th Century? German Rechenpfennig Or Token

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1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 04/15/2018 05:44 am Small copper coin, diameter 1 cm, weight less than 1 gram probably early 17th century, corroded OBV sun with rays ; legend starts with DIE SONNE .. REV half moon who can help? German is not my native language Report this Post to the Staff

1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 04/15/2018 5:21 pm perhaps too difficult ? a less corroded piece would maybe help ? the second from a series of three is in a better state, except the hole of course legends OBV - DIE SONNE DER GERECHTIGKEIT ERLEUCHTE MICH REV - DAS ICH DAS IRDISCHE GEBRAUCHE SELIGLICH Report this Post to the Staff
1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 04/15/2018 5:26 pm here is the third one, which I find so attractive that I would really like to know more about this type, like ... * date of the original copper version (not the later 18th century and later imitations) * place of production * meaning of the REV legend thanks for your help ! Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7940 Posts	Posted 04/22/2018 3:24 pm No help on identification, but I think the obverse legend reads "Die sonne der gerechtigkeit erleuchte mich." I also speak no German, but I think it translates to "The sun of justice enlightens me." Report this Post to the Staff
1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 04/26/2018 02:24 am perhaps the legends are related to the reformation transforming parts of Germany? Report this Post to the Staff
john1565 New Member Bangladesh 4 Posts	Posted 04/28/2018 6:57 pm How can I get these? Coin collection is my hobby. Would you please help me guys ? Report this Post to the Staff
1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 04/29/2018 4:38 pm Quote: How can I get these? a silver type, produced at least one century later than the copper pieces shown here, is now on the market: https://www.ma-shops.nl/raffler/ite...7169&lang=en another silver piece, also a later type, was auctioned in 2011 https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?...18&lot=15075 Edited by 1c5d7n5m 04/29/2018 4:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
1c5d7n5m Pillar of the Community Belgium 1185 Posts	Posted 05/24/2018 07:51 am some more digging: 1) the piece is described in a book from Joseph Appel (1829) Münzen und Medaillen vol IV #4053 - alas no date ! 2) the obverse DIE SONNE DER GERECHTIGKEIT ERLEUCHTE MICH may mean: the sun of justice illuminates me the pun could be the link between light and enlightenment I suspect that this coin was produced at about a century earlier than the age of Enlightenment (1715-1789), so is seems far fetched to speculate about a token the German (Bavarian) branch of the Illuminati. 3) the legend on the reverse has to do with a proper way of living DAS IRDISCHE the gifts of every day of life GEBRAUCHEN benutzen, making use of in a good way SELIGLICH is an old German word, meaning blessed it can be found in old books; also on the tombstone of Wilhelm Kling (1630) in the Dom of Worms http://www.inschriften.net/worms/in...tml#content) DAS ICH DAS IRDISCHE GEBRAUCHE SELIGLICH may perhaps mean: that I may use the fruits the Earth in a blessed way this idea has gained new attention in the light of global change and sustainable way of dealing with our planet justice and sustainability, two great ideas united on this moralpfennig Report this Post to the Staff
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