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Are Lowball Proofs Possible?

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I made a very similar topic to this before, regarding if lowball zincolns were possible. Since I am still in search of a pocket coin that I like, I have another question: If I took an impaired proof coin of my birth year, could I wear it down to the point of looking like a circulation strike?

I know that proof coins have deeper fields than business strikes and that is a main reason that I'm asking: My birth year falls securely into the "modern" category, and I've never liked the way that modern business strikes look.
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Time and patience, it may take decades to develop a pocket piece to loball state.
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If you're referencing a stinkin zinkin being worn down to a slick PO1, it is theoretically possible. BUT practically it is impossible. To wear enough of the fields off 2x the material would have to have come off the highs. Take the bust, the copper layer has actually been stretched THINNER there, it would have worn to zinc far before the fields. Reaction to body oils, temperature would long before have accelerated the corrosive process, then take into consideration the sharp edges of warn metal, you'd have lost a few pocket linings, and maybe a body part or two!

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Sure. But you wouldn't (necessarily) be able to demonstrate it's a proof, unless the year/mintmark were not used for circulation strikes.
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Like Bstrauss mentioned being able to identify them is part of the equation. A lot of years low ball proofs would probably be more like XFish than a true lowball
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If your birth year is in the range where the San Francisco mint was proof only (i.e. after the mid-1970s), then yes, it would still be possible to recognize a proof coin as proof down to a fairly low grade due to the S mintmark.

Would it still be visibly identifiable as a proof aside from the mintmark? You go check. I'm not sufficiently certain one way or the other.
(That said, if I ever end up getting more than one cheap raw proof Lincoln Cent in the 1975-1981 range, I'm definitely adding one of them to my ever growing bunch of pocket pieces.)
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Since the general consensus is that lowball zincolns are impossible, I'll probably go for a half dollar.
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I bet the gold 2014 half dollar would wear down nicely
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I bet the gold 2014 half dollar would wear down nicely


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Carried in change & keys pocket every day for the past 26 years. Bought new in '92.. Weighed it this morning = 24.38 gr.. Sorry, don't have a new one to compare it against.. Sorry about the scan as well..

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PS: Reverse is incuse and blank; somewhat lesser wear..


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Sure. But you wouldn't (necessarily) be able to demonstrate it's a proof, unless the year/mintmark were not used for circulation strikes.
I concur.
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Not sure about Zincolns long term but I am definitely going with UNC strikes for the next pocket pieces as you mentioned proofs have higher rims taking longer to wear down and proofs are double struck.

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https://coins.ha.com/itm/trade-doll...ption-071515

It is possible for a proof to be lowball
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It is possible for a proof to be lowball


It is, but that example is a case of:


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...unless the year/mintmark were not used for circulation strikes.


There were no 1883 business strike Trade dollars. The PCGS pop shows one graded at PF-2.
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