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Help Needed To Grade A Rare Coin

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 Posted 05/09/2018  3:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pirgah to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
1730R Brazil 12800 Reis.
Sorry for scanned pictures. I know thatīs very difficult to grade it, but unfortunately itīs an auction coin so I have only these photos.
My main worry is: Coin was cleaned long ago? Any sign of mounting?
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 Posted 05/11/2018  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pirgah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please excuse me once again. I didnīt mention that is a GOLD coin. Thank you
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 Posted 05/11/2018  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Compare the coin very carefully :
https://coins.ha.com/itm/brazil/bra...3037-31024.s
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 Posted 05/12/2018  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pirgah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you mean the auction coin is a fake one?
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 Posted 05/12/2018  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See for yourself....

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 Posted 05/14/2018  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paxbrit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have serious problems with just the photograph of this coin, it does not appear to be gold, and has a granular surface. It screams, 'don't bid on me'.
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I see what your saying Dorado. Spacing on several aspects of it are off and it just looks wrong. Thank you for the side-by-side.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
http://goccf.com/t/303507
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Congrats on 3000 posts Dorado!
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
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This is not a coin I would buy as genuine.
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Most definitly a counterfeit.
The Obverse is not even close.
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I am answering this one to correct old mistakes done here.

I assure you there was nothing bad visible in this 1730 dobra from Rio. It my opinion it was genuine. Only the high wear prevents me from saying that it is genuine for sure.

The obverse matches perfectly with a well documented die that has the date amended from 1729. The reverse does not match perfectly with any I saw documented but is the correct style for the year. There is nothing wrong about the design of the reverse.

Two different reverses with the oblique and straight castles in the shield are well known. Both are genuine.
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