Possible Unlisted 2015-P ATB Saratoga Doubled Die Reverse / DDR 2.0

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Waynoah83 Pillar of the Community 586 Posts	Posted 05/17/2018 10:26 pm I made a post last night about this same topic but with help from coop and crazybo determined it was just a crack from either metal shear or a coin hit. I have a pile of ATB Quarters I'm still going through and came across this one, not particularly my favorite design but whatever, and saw this. Before making this post I tried to determine whether or not it was just a coin hit or md, etc. and after process of elimination I think this might actually have some merit. A couple reasons being is that it follows the slight curve of the handle, it actually added a little material when I compared it to another saratoga which is one of the obvious criteria for a dd. When I looked at it under more magnification this one is raised a tiny bit higher on the handle and there is no incuse or gouge marks. Everything is smooth and blends in with no sharp points. Plus it affects the same side of the handle as the other known dd's, just not the same part. Just a little above it. Opinions please. Report this Post to the Staff

Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4406 Posts	Posted 05/17/2018 10:39 pm Again, it is an unusual spot for a Saratoga DDR. It could be a hit from another piece of metal like the last one or MD. Report this Post to the Staff
Waynoah83 Pillar of the Community 586 Posts	Posted 05/17/2018 10:51 pm I totally understand what your saying. It's not like I'm praying it's a DDR or anything. If it is it's very minor but the fact it follows the rounded shape of the handle and that it added a little size makes me believe it's not a hit from another coin. Granted I haven't been doing this very long but I've seen a ton of md on these quarters and it doesn't look like md to me. Before I posted this I made sure it wasn't any of that stuff. The last one once I looked from a diff angle it was pretty easy to tell it wasn't me. The metal was sheared this isn't like that. Plus it's smooth and doesn't have those sharp points like a strike leaves. Granted I know seeing it in person isn't the same as pics but I'm almost positive it's not md. The fact it has some added size is the biggest reason I think it might be a minor DD. Plus it's around the center of the quarter which is where most of it occurs according to coop. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/17/2018 10:52 pm Note the color of that area? It is all the same color which indicates that it is flat. The contour was removed by MD after the strike. That is what I look for first when questioning whether it is MD. Report this Post to the Staff
Waynoah83 Pillar of the Community 586 Posts	Posted 05/17/2018 11:08 pm The contour wasn't removed. If you look at the second and third picture big areas have a slight bend. The other pics don't show as good because of the angles and lighting. Under magnification they are both slightly curved. I know it doesn't show up good in my pics. If it was straight like from a coin hit I wouldn't have even bothered posting it. It's cool though, if you guys think it's MD then that must be what it is. Thanks for the opinions. Report this Post to the Staff
Waynoah83 Pillar of the Community 586 Posts	Posted 05/17/2018 11:52 pm I don't know. I'm looking at it again and it just doesn't seem like MD or a coin strike. It's curved which kind of rules out a strike plus it added size. Md wouldn't. Here's a couple pics with diff lighting. Report this Post to the Staff
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