2018 $2 Commemorative Remembrance Coin ?

I find the "special wrap" offering from the mint to be the most misleading value proposition they have.

These rolls are sold for up to 2x face value but they are simply business strikes in a fancy preprinted wrap. When the roll of nickels are sold for $4 ($2 face) you know it can only cost $2 maximum for the tooling to prepare and wrap the roll. So a roll of $2 coins sold for $80 ($50 face) means a $28 killing is being made. Oh and as @Cdncoins noted... if coins are sold for more than face value, they are assumed to be collectible and trigger taxable status thereby increasing the cost base even further.

I understand given the face value debacle where folks buy face value with Credit Cards and return via a bank at face value thereby benefiting from the credit card points for no out of pocket cost but it seems to me that either a 10% premium or the option to buy at face using wire transfer/interac payment only, as most bullion dealers offer, would negate that type of scam.

Should any of the "special wrap" become torn or damaged, you now have a collection of UNC business strikes that in the case of these $2 coins are worth approx $2 each. Maybe if you are running your own LCS or have a regular booth at a coin meet or flea-market, you can charge a premium in a direct sale but for most it is losing proposition as it is unlikely that you can recover the auction seller premium for contemporary UNCs and like most NCLT, these wraps generally don't appreciate over time (or at least, I have never seen them appreciate).

If I don't trust in the ability to collect from the wild, I would rather go to a LCS and spend $4 each for the two releases in UNC than drop $100 (after tax) for 25. That satiates my collection completeness OCD and manages my cost.

For the record, I categorize myself as a collector not an investor or flipper. It just seems odd to me that as a coin collector, the goal for this product is not to collect coins but a piece of paper wrapping the coins since that is what is being sold here... the coins in the roll will always be worth $50. It is the paper wrapper that is valued at $30... at least for now and it is a piece of paper that, if it remains intact, separates you from seeing 23 of your 25 coins and for the 2 you can see, you only get to see one side each.

Shipping confirmation received today from the Mint... via Purolator. Guess they aren't taking a chance with CP set to strike.

Shipping is free over $100. The set alone also ships free.

The set and a roll comes to about $115 in ON w/ free shipping which isn't cheap but my time is worth something and running around town trying to find a bank with them, or going to a coin exchange, cost something. Paying $90 to hoard a roll and $25 for an uncirculated set with both toonies displayed is ok, I guess.

Would I rather the Mint sold them at FV or close too it? Sure. Would be even better if they handed them out free.

The Mint has repeatedly said the mix is 2M colour and 1M non-colour. Finding them in change is a pipe dream. How many 2017 toonies have you found in change? For me, it's zero. Slightly better odds than lotto max.

Previous to 2017, the RCM in Winnipeg had a bulk order dept. where any one or dealer can purchase circulating coins at face plus shipping and one time shipping charge, according to the higher RCM personal at the 2017 RCNA they did this to stop Canada 150 hoarding, how did that work out, only rolls of the toonie was in dealers hands and I concluded it must have been pulled by the security delivery firms and sold to dealers. So instead of celebrating our 150 most of these coins found it's way into dealers stock, just like these toonies because there is no way for regular collectors to order from the RCM and it's limited mintage this will be almost the only way to get it. As mentioned above with the GITD toonie went to many TD in the Toronto area only one had a box and the rest only had a few from customer's change, and these had a higher mintage. Yes those special wrap 50 cent pieces and others rarely appreciates but this coin is a little different due to reasons above

Very nice.

Now that these have hit ebay, the non coloured coin, with half the mintage of the coloured ones, are way cheaper. Seems backwards. Are we that hooked on colour? I like the flower better on the non coloured one anyways. No bumps to hold the ink. Best buy I have seen so far is $7.95 for one of each plus shipping. May have to wait on the mail strike.

Found in Circulation October 24, 2018

It would financially not make any sense for me to spend any more on gas than the premium I would otherwise pay on getting these coins at the coin show or from a LCS. At today's gas prices it would be about say $10 or so for two coins or approximately 9 litres worth of gas which in my car would be approximately 108 kilometers return or 54 kilometers one way.

Of course if I add dollar value to my time then $10 can be made in less than an hour after tax with the minimum wage that our Ontario government has most recently decided to cap at $14.

I would travel to enjoy being part of the coin exchange, to be part of the excitement and to also meet up with the designer. That is the fun of collecting, building memories -Priceless.

No Toronto locations in the coin exchange. That's unfortunate. I'll probably have to pick them up from a dealer as I'm not putting high odds on finding both in change or roll hunting.