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Help With Indentification - Unknown Pin/Badge

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Hi All!

I'd really appreciate some help indentifying this pin/badge for a friend of mine.

I have no info other than it was found amongst the possessions of an elderly man after he passed away.

Any help would be much appreciated!


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 Posted 06/10/2018  01:30 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, so without knowing what it specifically represents, I'll give my opinions.

It is obviously an iron cross which is heavily associated with Germany through different governments. The A.H. on the front seems to denote an organization. The back seems to show a person's initials (D.B.) and a date that is most likely 1919.

There is also the word "Fidelitas" which may be useful for narrowing down the specific organization in combination with the other clues if they have that as a motto. It simply translates to fidelity or faithfulness.

Beyond that, it is 14k gold with enamel inlay and I probably didn't tell you anything you don't already know. The key will be figuring out what A.H. stands for.
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You can also try the metal detecting forum. Spruett, nice information by the way.
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Thank you, and thanks Spruett!

A few people I've talked to have suggested that A.H could stand for Adolf Hitler and the date 1919 could refer to the foundation of the German Workers Party.

I'm not so sure...
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perhaps you can contact this site:
http://world-war-medals.com/category/german/
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The shape of this item is a cross pattee ( or patty ) which is the same as the German iron cross, but somehow the proportions and light edge band don't seem correct for a government issued piece.

In Germany in 1919 there sprang up a number of paramilitary organisations known as "freikorps", which many ww1 ex-servicemen joined. I wonder if this piece is a privately made badge for one of those units? I checked listings of them and could not find a freikorps unit with initials "AH". There could be one however, or the initials could be something more personal. Freikorps uniforms were largely based on army issue but insignia design was highly individual.
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A few people I've talked to have suggested that A.H could stand for Adolf Hitler and the date 1919 could refer to the foundation of the German Workers Party.


I doubt that, but anything's possible! This is what the pin looks like for the German Workers Party (DAP):

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The subsequent Nazi party (NSDAP) pins, of course, had the swastika in the center, but did not include any mention of Hitler. Anaximander may be more on track with this.
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