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Cant Idntfy. 1958 D Over D Over Inside D? And 1961 RPM Lincoln Cents

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Hello all
Pulled these roll searching this spring and can't identify the 1958 D or the 61 D. Anyone ran into a 1958 D like this and what is that spike coming off the 5, is that a 3rd D inside the 5? Couldn't bring out the other D SW of the primary D in pic.but its there.
The 61 D I can't match it? Lastly Here is a pic. of a nice 1960 D F'S-501 I found in March. These are always a treat. Any help much appreciated.
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#3) http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...ie_state=mds

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Cammy, can't tell if #1 is an RPM or not, can't match it anywhere as one, and is too pixelated to tell if there are splits on the upper and especially lower serif. That is but a die clash I think...


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Very nice finds and congratulations!
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Thanks Crazybo. What is the 61 D? your link didn't load, surely its not the 61 D over horizontal D it looks nothing like the horizontal variety. I Cant find it in CCoins, Ddie, or Vista, isn't there about 80 variety for the 61 D? And the 58 D what is its major malfunction with that die chip? The scratch from the vest through the first 9 is a die clash not a scratch. I'm scratching my head.
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LuvmyCAM, maybe the 1958 D RPM is unlisted?
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Crazy I am not seeing that 61 as a match it has a vertical bar of the D in the middle and part of the curve up coming out the right side? I don't see that in the 061? Or I may not see it in that pic. I can't use copper coins it doesn't work for me.
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Brilliant, forgot about the old x-ray comparison view. Apparently that's what it looks to be, I rarely run into Wheat cent clashes and didn't think to consider the reverse as the culprit. Now what about that corner of a D poking out the inside of the 5? I think you nailed it for me, looks like a reverse clash. I'm slapping it back into my vintage " Library of Coins" holder book.
Here's another dozie that I should know but don't...this old book with plastic sleeve inserts couldn't it contain PCV residue? Are these old books safe? I love them but not if they could ruin my babies.
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Never thought it might be unlisted. Darnit you guys are only allowed a .05% error rate. The 58 D might be one to send to John Wexler, maybe the 61 D also as I couldn't locate these possible RPM's. Are you able to discern a phantom D in the 5?
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Zach, 61D crosses to Coneca RPM-061 and WRPM-015https://coppercoins.com/diesearch.p...=mmom&page=6

inside the 5 is part of the clash, not a Mintmark.

Also, old adage, "When in doubt, toss it out" applies to the LoC book...maybe why ya don't see many around. If its manufactured before 1960 or so, pitch it!

You talking the Waite/Raymond coin boards?
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Here's the link to "Coin Examination" on John Wexler's website. doubleddie.com/402401.html
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Thanks Crazybo, these two were bugging me man. Appreciate the help.
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I love these old books but their making me paranoid thinking about PVC's. Here a pic. of them. Their oldtimers.
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Cammy, can't answer about PVC, just don't know. How hard are the inserts? If they have some stiffness to them they are OK. Really soft or sticky-like when you slide your finger across may be PVC infused. I have some old Wayte-Raymond coin boards these are OK to use and they are circa 1960's-1970'S
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Butch I still not seeing that part of D to the bottom right and top right aND middle of the D on that 61 on the rpm 061 on copper coins you put a link for? MM looks completely different to me
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Well Zach, the pix I posted above came off Coppercoins, on the link and page posted as well. It matches placement, tilt, and inside slanted mark as Cammy's, so I don't understand your trouble?

Unless you mean that lower protrusion that may not show on CC? If you take the angled inside line and draw a curve, that curve looks to be higher than whatever shows on Cammy's coin. Not so sure it is a "lower hook" version, although it could be, there are a couple of those. I don't have any more time I can devote to trying to see if it is, but placement/shape is good enough for me as is...
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This side by side shows what my trouble is it may be around the same position but it is not the same MM. that's why I'm confused
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