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1973 D LMC Double Strike ?

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I hope the pictures aren't too blurry... but there's definitely at least one double stamp on this coin. The left side rim has a double of the "L" in Liberty, and possibly another one just above it. The "B" has a definite double rotated west. Plus, you can see the trails I've pointed out as the die rotated in that direction through that whole side of the coin. I'm not sure, but I think I see 2 extra stamps of the "3" also. One slightly to the left, and up, and one to the right.


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It's NOT Doubled Struck. That's not what that means. Please look at the link I provided for you. http://www.error-ref.com/multiple_s..._off-center/

hat you have here is Rim Finning. http://www.error-ref.com/finning/
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Yeah... If you look on the left of the first picture, directly beside the crooked "L", there's an identicle crooked "L" on the rim. (Not rotated.) But the doubled "B" is rotated north-west into the "E". In my mind, that would say that it was struck more than once by the hammer die. Am I wrong? And if one of the multiple stamps were off center, then I would take that to mean that it was an ejection issue. I'm not being "smart". I'm asking because that's what I've read, and I don't want people being upset over terminology. Lol. Or... is this considered a "doubled die" because it was the die that struck it more than once? I'm confused...
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No, that's a misconception. A Doubled Die is not caused by being struck twice. It's caused by mistakes in the die making process. If that's what you've read, then that false and incorrect information.

From doubleddie.com.

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The "doubled die" variety is one of the most popular die varieties for collectors. Because doubled dies are so popular, there is a lot of information out there about these varieties and they are often seen for sale on internet auction sites such as ebay. Unfortunately, not all of the information out there is correct.

A frequent misconception about doubled dies is that they are produced when coins are struck twice by the dies. This is definitely not the case. All U.S. coins made for circulation are only struck once unless there is a mishap in the coining press. Even then, the resulting error coins will NOT be doubled dies. Only proof coins are struck more than once with the number of times that they are struck depending on the alloy of the planchets that will be struck into coins. But even here, the number of times that a proof coin is struck will have no bearing on whether or not a doubled die is produced.

The key to doubled dies lies in the name - doubled die! As we have seen, coins are struck by steel rods that bear the design images for the coins that they will be striking. These steel rods are called dies. For a doubled die coin to be produced, the doubled image must be on the die itself, hence the term "doubled die." Doubled dies occur when there are mishaps in making the dies that will be used to strike the coins.


For more information, visit doubleddie.com. http://doubleddie.com/58222.html
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Ok... so what would this one be referred to? Rotated die? Die clash? Ejection error? There's obviously an error on the coin... lol. I think if the rim wasn't there, the L's would be side by side. I know the pictures are a little blurry, but I'm trying to describe it the best that I can. Lol.
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These are just stains on your coin from being in a car cup holder, not legitimate errors. It's Post Strike Damage (it happened after it left the U.S. Mint).
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I agree that your coin is stained, no errors.
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Here are some pictures of the back ... And some (hopefully better pics) of the toning, so you can see I'm not crazy. Lol.


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Only thing it may be if those areas are raised in any way is die dings, othewise if indented is just damage or a stain of discoloration.

The reverse is DDD Die Deterioration Doubling(not doubled die or twice struck as MD.)
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So what would make the last "s" in states so short, and the letters in AMERICA extend up like that?


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The reverse shows extreme Die Deterioration. Not a valuable error either.
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The reverse shows Die Deterioration, caused by a worn die (die wear). This is part of normal wear and tear, as the die ages from overuse. See my threads on Severe Die Deterioration. http://goccf.com/t/317950 http://goccf.com/t/322204
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