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How Do You Tell If A Coin Has Been Previously Cleaned?

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 Posted 07/23/2018  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nonna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all that responded. I will experiment with some cleaning to see what happens. I have heard you can use a pencil eraser and clean, but not negatively effect the coin. Is that true?
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 Posted 07/23/2018  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have heard you can use a pencil eraser and clean, but not negatively effect the coin. Is that true?


No! No! No! A pencil eraser will destroy a coin. Only try it on a worthless Wheat cent and see what happens. It will be a good test/experiment for you.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An uncleaned coin can have gunk in the numbers and other gaps, can't it?
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 Posted 07/27/2018  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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An uncleaned coin can have gunk in the numbers and other gaps, can't it?


In my opinion, it would be just about impossible to articulate what a cleaned coin looks like verbally or in writing. It's something you gotta see with a trained eye.

Google is your friend. There's a lot out there.

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 Posted 07/27/2018  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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. Google is your friend. There's a lot out there.


I wouldn't recommend that video to anyone. Far to many half truths and just misinformation in there. Grading from photos is all about learning to interpret what a camera is doing and the lighting ect when using random pictures like that not taking them at face value such as he did.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Darkness around the date vs brighter area above the date indicates a cleaning to me.

Or it was dark and then got a little more circulation which removed some of the color in the open field area but not in the protected area around the date. The fact that the way the coin is lit also puts more light in that filed area doesn't help. Darkness or "Halos" around lettering do not always indicate cleaning.

Frankly the provided image is not really good enough to determine if it is cleaned or not. But it doesn't provide an appealing representation of the coin in any case.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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An uncleaned coin can have gunk in the numbers and other gaps, can't it?

Yes and so can a cleaned one.


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Grading from photos is all about learning to interpret what a camera is doing and the lighting ect

But it is not possible to learn how to interpret what the camera and lighting is doing unless you see a lot of examples of images AND the exact same coins in hand.
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 Posted 07/28/2018  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But it is not possible to learn how to interpret what the camera and lighting is doing unless you see a lot of examples of images AND the exact same coins in hand.


Absolutely true. The only way to be sure is to have possession of the actual coin. That said you can have much more educated guesses about what is happening if you play around with photos of coins you own with different lights and make some intentionally bad ect and use clues in the photo to see how the lighting could be impacting color ect, like if an NGC slab doesn't look bright white you know the camera didn't adjust perfectly to it so the coin inside will likely not be as dark as it shows
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