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Advice For 1921 Alabama 2x2?

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I picked up this 1921 Alabama 2x2 recently.

What grade would you assign?

Also, what would your approach be to the dark discoloration? Would acetone remove it safely?


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I would compare this to grading a Walking Liberty half for a quick ballpark grading and estimate roughly it falls within the F12 - VF20 range at best.

Info on this commemorative regarding 2x2 can be found here.
https://www.coincommunity.com/comme...f_dollar.asp
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It looks like a cast counterfeit to me. I would check the weight.
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I put a collage here to compare. Where do you see any flags for a cast copy Dave? Other than a weak to no banner showing above the beak, right off, I didn't see too much discrepancy.
But now, the more I look at it, the lettering in HALF and BIBB and KILBY look funny and inconsistent and the roundness of the conjoined busts is irregular on the coin in question.
I tend to agree with you Dave, it at least looks suspicious now that you mention it.
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The surfaces are grainy and the wear pattern/ progression does not make sense. Look at the eagle's legs and the arrow fletchings or lack there of.. This would be expected of a G/VG graded coin?
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The 2X2 is wrong size ( 2's are too large )
Stars are inconsistent in shape.
A magnet would possibly stick to it and I agree, weighing this should point out that it should be very close to 12.5 grams.
Hope you can send it back.

Good Eye Dave!
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Thank you all for the comments. Very helpful and insightful! Although not what I hoped to hear.

I will weigh it soon & post the results for confirmation. Bought it at an estate sale, relatively inexpensive. I doubt a return/refund will be possible...likely I bought some experience
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I don't think it's right either, but right or wrong, I just don't find it very attractive.
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Black toning, possibly applied, is unlikely to help the color. But at this point it doesn't matter.
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The coin is not genuine. 2x2 is raised on your example and is pressed in on a real coin.
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Thanks everyone
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The noses and the stars are red flags...
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Everyone's analysis has me nervous about another commemorative half dollar I bought at the same estate sale. A 1921 Pilgrim.

Thoughts on the authenticity of this coin? (should this question be a separate topic?)

I already sold the 1921 Pilgrim and feel obligated to offer buyer a refund if it's a fake too.


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This would be a 1921 which is more rare than the undated Pilgrim.
All of the E's on the reverse look wrong to me and the crows nest is a blob on yours. The dot looks small on the left side of the obverse between PILGRIM and TERCENTENARY.
Not looking good but I applaud you for your honesty.



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Likely yes - but we can discuss both of them here.

Appears by my eye that you were sold two non-authentic coins in that estate sale - both examples you have shown are replicas of genuine coins.
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I just saw corrosion, didn't even think authenticity - excellent group of members here as you probably know already!
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