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It Only Took Me 43 Years Or ........ Dos Equis (Xx) Cęsars

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To celebrate former President Barack Obama's birthday I bought myself a coin today
(well its actually also my daughters 19th birthday but she isn't as high on my list ..... little beastie)

I had been tipped off by a fellow CC member up in Canadia that my "missing link" was available at auction from that venerable German seller whose name ends in Z
Not only that but ebay is offering an 8% kickback until midnight tonight !
Well ....... when the planets align like that
a world class cheapskate like myself just can't lose

Not the prettiest Otho I have ever seen but all in all I believe it is better than it might seem at first glance.
This has been a common experience with my purchases from Mssr "Z".


Ę24 Emperor Otho
SYRIA (Seleucis and Pieria) Antioch
Obv IMP M O-THO CAE AVG
Laureate bust of Otho right
Rv SC with above all within wreath
9.04 grams 24mm
AD 69
RPC I 4319

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So here goes "nothing" ......

Julio Claudian Dynasty

Julius Caesar Ę Dupondius

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Augustus Caesar Ę As

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Tiberius Caesar Ę As

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Caligula Ę As

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Claudius Ę Sestertius

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Nero Ę Dupondius (Lyon)

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Galba Ę Sestertius
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Otho Ę24

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Vitellius Ę As

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Flavian Dynasty

Vespasian Ę Dupondius

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Titus Ę Dupondius

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Domitian Ę As

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The "Adoptive" Emperors

Nerva Ę As

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Trajan Ę As

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Hadrian Ę Dupondius

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Lucius Aelius Ę Sestertius

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Antoninus Pius Ę Sestertius

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Marcus Aurelius Ę Dupondius

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Lucius Verus Ę Sesterius

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Commodus Ę Sestertius

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Honorable Mention

As Julius Caesar issued no portrait in bronze I will offer Statilius Libo
Caesar's Roman Governor in Hispania
My brother argues that the portrait represents Julius Caesar
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Livia Ę As

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Drusus Caesar Ę As

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Germanicus Ę As

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Antonia Ę Dupondius

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Britannicus Caesar

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After 43 years I am fairly exhausted and am sorely in need of a nap !
It ain't easy being a cheapskate .........
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WOW!, very impressive. Glad you where finally able to add the last piece. Outstanding collection, congratulations.
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Wow, what a truly impressive group of coins. Bronze is beautiful, no doubt about it.

That Nero dupondius is amazing...but, then, so are the busts of Vespasian, Domitian, Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, and Marcus Aurelius. Geez, what a set. You can pick 'em, FR. Thanks for sharing.
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Impressive collection

Very nice..

Now you can take a week off
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That is a fantastic looking collection!

Nothing else to say except WOW
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That was a delight to look at!

What a nice collection of early bronzes.
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interesting and beautiful , congrats. albert
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Forty three years of (relatively) patient collecting
I feel I finally achieved the primary goal of assembling the "Rise" of the empire
The great Edward Gibbon sets the "Decline" with the reign of Commodus
Alone among the historians Gibbon sets the "Fall" as August 9 AD 378
The place Adrianople where "the Empire of the Romans came to an end"
Looks like I have another date to celebrate !

Thanks all for viewing
I hope you might noww understand it when I caution others that patience is a necessary ingredient
Now if only I hadn't sold off my Didius Julianus !
I would be one Pertinax away from something really impressive ..........
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It ain't easy being a cheapskate?
For me, it ain't easy being green (with envy).
That is quite some achievement, and deserves congratulations.
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I have oft fantasized about what it might be like to go into the NYC International Show with a briefcase stuffed with cash and spend the weekend at the auctions and prowling about the floor
A person might acquire all of the above in a single weekend and leave feeling they had accomplished some goal of sorts
But then what ?
The items might simply end up being buried in a vault
Would I have gained by the experience ? Materially yes .........

The first purchase here was the Trajan
I was 18 years old and it set me back $48
That was big money for a kid in high school working in a factory part time for $1.85 an hour !
The last here was Otho and that was a mere €178
Nero was the only one that broke the magic 1000 mark and of all the only one that I ever felt I might have over paid was Caligula
I left the NYC back in 1992 and could not get him off my mind
The next day (Sunday) I called up the seller (J Kern) and struck a deal
Just under $500
That sounds quite reasonable today but in 1992 that was serious cabbage !
But we had no internet and Caligula was hard to find in a sharp state
It was actually the reverse that sold me
VESTA ........ If you look closely it is obviously the emperor dressed in "drag".
Madness overcomes us all on occasion
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Obama's birthday? But he looks like the Donald.
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Congratulations on this amazing set FR!

Truly outstanding!

Glad you ended up getting the Otho, I was keeping my fingers crossed for you
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Impressive - most Impressive - Now I see why you like collecting bronzes so much!
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My attraction to bronze is twofold
While in all honesty I can affirm my preference for the larger "format"
provided by the larger denominations
I can also affirm that of the coins shown above (20 Caesars plus 6) not one of them gives me the slightest doubts as to its authenticity
On a scale of 1-100 I am squarely in the 99.999% region
Due to my suspicious nature
I seriously doubt I would feel the same comfort level with 26 pieces of silver
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Everybody has the coins he loves , bronze or silver and I think , if you are a serious collector , after 40 years or 50 years (my case) , you are sure what you buy for about 99 % . End eighties beginning nineties there was an exposition in the British Museum with doubtful pieces ,first considered as real ,then fake and then again doubts. if these experts can change of mind , I think we can never be sure , even knowing the origine . This said , when I buy a coin , for me it is not a fake but a real ancient coin that circulated 2000 years ago from hand to hand and I enjoy this coin every time I have it in my hand . This said , what you present here is really amazing , for the idea of building a part of a collection and for the many beautiful coins . I think that presentations like this one give a motive to start coin collecting to non familiars .albert
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Thank you Albert
I respect your 'learned' opinions
Some things can only be acquired by many many years of study
Patience being an excellent example !
I always try to caution new collectors against haste
And when given a choice ....... always buy the 'prettiest' one
No one ever said "I should have bought the ugly one"

Of the emperors shown above
Some (Caligula Trajan Hadrian) are not even my favorites in the collection
But they are rather pretty
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