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 Posted 08/06/2018  3:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add riiiichard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there!

First post here, seems like a nice forum

When we cleaned out my grandfathers house, we found some interesting coins. I've found a little info from google, but not much. Only from the coins I could identify by myself. So I hope there someone out there that could tell me a little more of them :-)


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That's a lovely set of coins!

IN the first two pictures, the coin on the left should be from Brunswick-Luneberg-Calenberg. The image of Saint Andrew is an identifier for this place on large silver coins. I cannot figure out the exact type. The date looks like 1691 or 1697.

Also in the first two pictures, the coin on the right appears to be from West Friesland (Netherlands). The legend on the side with the portrait, DEUS FORTITUDO SPES NOSTRA is used on the coins of this place, and on the reverse side (photo 1), you can see WEST FRISL from about 11:00 to 1:00 the way your photo is oriented. There is an expert on the coins of this area, who will be able to give a more positive identification.

(EDIT: In photos 3 and 4, the coin on the left is a 1598 thaler of Kampen like this one https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...d6a1390243a8: The coin on the right in photos 5 and 6 is similar, but appears to lack a date.)

In photos 5 and 6 on the left, you appear to have a match for this Austrian thaler of 1605:
https://www.coinarchives.com/w/resu...&results=100

The coin in the last two photos appears to match this one:
https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...e4d91a650359
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The date is 1697.

Ohhh, Netherlands. From the beginning I thought they were from Germany.

NO CIVITATIS IMP CAMPENS AMBENSIS. The C could also be an G.

Thank you so much for helping me, so fun to know more about them and their origin
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I just edited my earlier post with the identification of the coin with CAMPENSIS.

Very nice coins! ENjoy.
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sorry I see your thread only today

your set of seven talers (three Dutch, three Austrian and one German) is interesting, the coins appear on photo of good quality and some have a nice and old tone

as <b>tdziemia</b> pointed out, the coin on the right sides of the two first photo's (date = 1598?) is from West Friesland one of the seven provinces of the Dutch Republic it is called a Gehelmde rijksdaalder (helmet on the REVC) or Prinsendaalder (portrait of the knight on the OBV resembles Prince William of Orange, the leader of the Dutch revolt who was assassinated 14 years before the coin was struck).

A little personal anecdote about this type of coin - it is linked to the day I restarted 25 years back collecting coins (topic of another thread http://goccf.com/t/317290&whichpage=2#2721797 ). The triggering event was a coin alike yours (but minted in Utrecht) exposed in a small shop somewhere in downtown Stockholm. Finding this old Dutch coin in Sweden was thought-provoking, so I bought it and never regretted it afterwards.

The two other Dutch talers are, as <b>tdziemia</b> explained from Kampen, one of the three IJsselsteden in the Province of Overijssel, active in the trade with the Baltic States and Sweden. These coins with the double headed imperial eagle are made in the tradition of the Holy Roman Empire.





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